High School Hockey Players Will Be Held Accountable For Brawl

By Carol Cavazos, CBS 11 News

FARMERS BRANCH (CBSDFW.COM) – It’s the hockey fight that has a lot of people talking. They’re calling it “too violent – even for the pros.”

But there were no professional teams involved. These were high school kids playing at the Varsity State Championship Hockey game held at the Dr Pepper Star Center in Farmers Branch Sunday.

It ended with less-than-championship behavior. It turned into an all out brawl between the two high schools involved: Keller and Arlington Martin.

It happened near the end of the game when Keller was ahead 9 to 3.

“The ending ruined it to be honest with you, ruined a great weekend. Story should be about Keller winning the State Title. Not about this,” said Arlington Martin Coach Louie Greco.

Arlington Martin player Jeff SoRelle, who left the bench to hit another player, ended up with a broken jaw when Keller player Braxton Mills decked him from behind.

“Everyone will be held accountable,” Greco said. “It’s not like everyone’s just going to walk away from this.”

But Greco may actually end up serving SoRelle’s likely suspension next season because SoRelle is a graduating senior.

“So, yeah. I would have to serve the suspension,” Greco admitted.

Meantime, the presidents of the two hockey clubs involved in the fight are making nice.

Kevin Wicks, President of the Keller Hockey Club, said, “Chuck and I just met officially a few minutes ago and we’ve been talking about and trying to reconcile and get beyond this incident.”

“That starts with some good communication between him and I,”

Chuck Palmer, President of the Arlington Martin Hockey Club. “And, that started tonight.”

Child Psychologists say other adults should be held accountable too.

“Parents have to step in though. They must say this is not permitted, especially in the youth sports. This is ridiculous,” said Dr. Sylvia Gearing.

The Match Penalty Committee is the group that decides what happens to players involved in these kinds of fights. Their next meeting is scheduled for April 5.

If they can gather all the information, they’ll move forward with the hearing.

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    • George

      I went to a fight and saw a hockey game

  • John

    Kid hit someone from behind, and he got what he deserved. Be a man. Confront people to their faces.

    • triptyx

      Right on John.

      Just desserts were served in my opinion.

    • Jah

      AMEN! Punk got what he deserved … period. No liberal garbage can change the fact that this little twerp learned a valuable lesson. A lesson that his parents should have taught him.

      Punks finish last, enjoy eating your soup for the next six months.

      • Dan, South Dakota

        Fighting in youth hockey is unacceptable. Fighting is a small part of professional hockey, but should never be a part of youth hockey. Hockey is a great sport and these types of incidents give this great game a bad wrap which is not deserved. Coaches, you are there to teach the game and to build life skills that will need to be used later in life for these young people. These associations, teams, coaches and players should be totally embarrassed by their actions. If not, your root problem goes deeper than just a hockey brawl.

    • Willbo

      Totally agree. If he’s going to leave the box to hit someone from behind and he’s the already being a sore loser, then he got exactly what he deserved. Keller kid shouldn’t be punished at all.

  • John

    I guess I was wrong. Kid left the bench to hit someone and got what he deserved. Too bad the other kid hit him from behind. He should have gotten a broken jaw too for being a coward.

  • Will

    Since when do hockey games have to involve fights at all? What else do we expect when this is what is common at the pro level. Get rid of the fights at the pro level and penalize players like they do at the Olympic level and the fights will diminish.

    • swis

      I agree

    • ricardo maxwell

      Lawrence a buttinski like you just screams liberal. How about? You like the community organizer as President huh Larry?

    • ricardo maxwell

      You are a moron Will And probably will never understand the game of hockey. I am willing to bet you lack understanding in quite a few other areas as well. Kids are not pros and should not be doing what pros do. Pros are not kids and should not be restricted by kids rules. I played the game my whole life, coached, and refereed. What do you know about Will? That’s what I thought.

    • Richard

      You’re obviously not a hockey fan.

      • Taylor

        All these commenters obviously are not hockey fans. Go play tennis.

      • Jason Lee

        You’re obviously a moron.

      • Wondering

        “You’re obviously not a hockey fan?” That is your reply? Why do hockey fans have to involve fights?

      • Donal Jolley

        There are good reasons for the fighting, and while Richard’s answer is very brief it is accurate. The fighting in hockey is not nearly as “free-for-all” as non-fans might think. There are different ranks, from lightweight to enforcer, and it is very bad form to go below your rank. Many players don’t even enjoy the fighting (it hurts), but it keeps the game play itself cleaner and faster with less underhanded garbage. If someone knows he’ll get beat up for playing dirty they are much less likely to play dirty. But at a high school level… this is very wrong. And Jason… that answer doesn’t look good on you.

      • Victor

        Remember Russel Crowe in Gladiator.

        “Are you entertained?!”

        That’s why it’s important and since then is your since when.
        So there.

      • Master Shake

        Clearly no one commenting in this general section plays hockey. There are great reasons for fighting in hockey, and its a very important aspect of the game. Fighting in hockey plays a very important role in hockey, theres times when fighting is appropriate and theres times when it will do more harm than good. Fighting does have its place in high school hockey, depending the level and location of play. Fighting can be used to set the pace of a hockey game, change the momentum of a hockey game, to send a message to a team (i.e. your losing by 7, and you want to keep your team involved in the game, and let the other team know they will not just walk all over you.) I’ve seen lightweights fight the heavyweights and win. Theres no real ranks in fighting, its all about the flow of the game and is a result of the flow of the game. Regardless if someone knows if they’ll get beat up or not they’ll stay play dirty if their a dirty player, they may run away from the fight if their european however.

      • Donal Jolley

        Mr. Shakes, other than your ranks statement you are nearly dead on. You might find the book “The Code” by Ross Bernstein, with forwards by Marty McSorley and Tony Twist interesting. There are very clear ranks, and while one can fight “up” it is very bad form to fight “down.” That was yet one more reason why the Bertuzzi Incident was so abhorrent.

      • hoot87

        “There are good reasons for the fighting…”

        Not in any High School Sport.

      • hoot87

        “…There are great reasons for fighting in hockey, and its a very important aspect of the game…”

        Why does your logic not transend to all other “contact” sports?

        “…Fighting can be used to set the pace of a hockey game, change the momentum of a hockey game, to send a message to a team (i.e. your losing by 7, and you want to keep your team involved in the game, and let the other team know they will not just walk all over you…”

        Why would this logic not apply equally to Football and Basketball?

      • Master Shake

        It doesn’t transcend into all contact sports because not all contact sports are the same. Each individual sport is unique, and contains its own unique set of rules. Obviously most the rules are different for the NBA, NHL, NFL. Not only are the rules different, the strategy and objectives are different too. However, the only sport I have any real knowledge or experience with is Ice Hockey. I’ve had coaches who were former NHL players, and have competed against current NHL players. However, I’ve only recently started to watch NFL and college basketball and have no real knowledge of the game.

        Also I see what you’re saying about ranks, and yes its not viewed positively if a heavy is pickin on a lighty, but usually there is an enforcer to address that situation and stand up for his teammate. I guess what I was saying is it is not viewed negatively if a lighty picks a fight with a heavy.

      • V

        “You’re obviously not a hockey fan.” Well, Richard, you either didn’t put much thought in to your response – perhaps for brevity’s sake – or you’re obviously very unknowledgeable about youth, amateur hockey. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, but let me expand on what I mean. I played hockey growing up in the northern states, and I coached for a few years at the high school level before I moved to Texas. I’m a USA Hockey certified Level 4 coach. Fighting is indeed a ‘part’ of the professional game. It is only a part, and its importance has been diminishing rapidly over the past couple decades. Some would argue that the decline in fighting and rise in ‘disrespectful’ and ‘dangerous’ hits to the head are correlated, but that’s for another discussion. Professional teams have realized that the importance of policing themselves with enforcers doesn’t make the team as successful as filling that roster spot with a talented player who can make the opponents pay for indiscretions on the scoreboard. Furthermore, they keep their skilled players out of fights because they’re much more useful on the ice than in the penalty box – or worse, injured. So that’s in the professional ranks – the very top tier of hockey talent in the world. Now let’s talk about amateur high school hockey in the state of Texas. Can you possibly comprehend how wide the talent gap is between the two? If you’ve never been affiliated with the game of hockey, I’m guessing you can’t. Here are the nationwide high school hockey rankings: http://www.ushsho.com/ushsrank.htm. Where are the Texas teams? (Hint: the two involved are ranked in the 500s and 800s). Since moving to Texas, I’ve been appalled by the absolute lack of discipline in hockey programs I’ve encountered here. I’ve been even more appalled by the rationalization of goon and retaliatory tactics as “part of the game”. Here’s a reality check. There are no college or major junior scouts checking out Texas high school hockey. Not one single player involved in this game will play hockey beyond the ACHA club level or perhaps some small Tier 3 junior league. Fighting is not a part of the amateur hockey game, and no one involved in this fight will ever play professional hockey where fighting is, in very limited amounts, a small part of the game. What’s left to conclude about this other than a group of out-of-control players, playing for an out-of-control association – where they are not held accountable to any standard of discipline that resembles structured youth hockey programs that actually DO produce youth hockey players with a chance to move on to higher levels of hockey? This was thoroughly disgusting and unacceptable in every way, shape, and form. It has no place in amateur hockey. And if Texas high school hockey ever wants to be taken seriously, it would help if fans, parents, players, and administrators would stop rationalizing this as ‘part of the game’ and would instead hold themselves to a higher standard. Hockey still determines its winners by who scores more goals, not who causes more black eyes. Speaking of black eyes, I hope Keller and Arlington enjoy the ones they just gave themselves.

      • Rob

        Why is fighting necessary in hockey but not in other contact sports? In other contact sports (with the exception of Lacrosse) the players are not carrying weapons. Fighting in hockey allows players an outlet that prevents them (usually) from resorting to using that stick they are carrying to relieve their frustration.

        Could you crack down to reduce the level of violence in hockey? Sure. Then you’d have women’s hockey (nothing against the girls…my daughter plays)…and don’t worry…the liberal panzies are going to get their way…starting next year checking is being taken out of U12 hockey for the boys…they erroneously believe that delaying hitting until U14 will reduce the injuries…sure. It will reduce the injuries for U12…but will greatly increase them at U14 when you have 6′ 200lb 14 year-olds decking 5′ 125lb 13 year olds who don’t know how to take a hit.

      • Rob Jacobs

        And yes…V has it right. There is no reason for fighting in high school hockey. This game was out of control. The coaches and refs should have brought the thing under control. As a coach, once my team has a 4 or 5 goal lead, we stop scoring. Even in a playoff or championship game, there is no reason for rubbing the other team’s nose in it. If I’m on the other end, I bench kids that get out of hand and try to take out their frustrations with cheap play.

      • what the

        For all these bloggers replies and more, is why I detest contact sports. “Since when do hockey games have to involve fights at all?”

        All contact sports may as well be grouped with illegal activities. The number of variables (read as game/player offenses) which can be missed, overlooked or understated is ridiculous. At the first level there are players which take advantage of these variables. On top of that are the coaches, then referees, then lack of camera angles to catch offenses.

        Luckily criminal offenses were captured on camera during this game. Crazily some league officials said the police were not brought into this:

        “Police were not called, and no one has made a report of the incident to the police.

        “We’re not bashful about calling the police,” Andresen said. “But there was no need to call them because the incident had stayed on the ice.”

        The individuals whom were assaulted and the parents of the assaulted should bring lawsuits against the attackers, period. This was a crime. The injuries sustained in these videos were not “mistakes”.

      • Braden

        The greatest player to ever play the game, Wayne Gretzky thought that fighting in hockey was pretty pointless as well. But I guess according to your standards, he wasn’t a real fan.

    • Steve

      There is a time and place for fighting in PROFESSIONAL hockey. It keeps players honest and ensures that dirty plays are kept to a minimum. However, there is never a reason for fighting at the high school level. These are kids, not professional players.

      • nilochsaloob@yahoo.com

        If I want to see a fight…I’ll watch boxing.

        Hockey maybe a contact sport but fighting is not what people came there to see…..

    • Steve Johnson

      I hate to burst your bubble Will, but your shocking naivete compels me to respond. I’ve been playing hockey for 30 years, I hope I’ll be playing when I’m 80 and I have seen a whole lot of hockey in my time. The international (Olympic) game has it’s share of fights as well. The fact the fights are less frequent in my humble opinion revolves around the fact the playing surface is larger. The width is expanded by slightly over 9 feet and if you know the game, most altercations have their origins in play along the boards. The wider ice surface offers the speedier wingers a better opportunity to get past the “rub out” on the boards where the elbows come up sometimes and get the blood boiling. You can throw out as many goons as you want in the league and the fights will still be there. I’ve seen fights in Baseball, Football, Basketball…. just not as frequently. But hockey is a unique sport. You have big, strong, highly motivated guys going 110% for 60 or 90 seconds at VERY high speed. Some of these guys can skate 25 to 30 MPH so imagine the impact when 2 guys come together.. tempers flare. Simply saying penalize players like they do in the International game is ridiculous, the penalties are already pretty severe already. It’s the nature of the game and personally, I love it.

    • Walrus

      Fighting is manly. Hockey is a manly sport. Fighting for stupid reasons or wrong reasons is stupid. It is better to not fight and win than lose and fight.

      But this is an issue that goes beyond hockey. America is being wussified by schmucks who are afraid to stick their neck out for any reason, much less a good one. At the same time, we have thugs and other nutters who throw hissy fits when they don’t get their way, and for instance, bring a gun to a fist fight.

      I can’t tell if this game was getting dirty before the fight, but it looks like somebody was just upset they was getting their rear handed to them.

      On the other hand, if you can’t take playing a contact sport, as previous posters suggested, play tennis. Having rarely played the sport myself, I can only go off of relatives who have commented on how remarkable it was they they never lost any teeth playing hockey growing up.

    • Steve Johnson

      Hey Lawrence, go plant a tree or something and leave commenting on men’s sports to men. How DARE you presume to tell ANYBODY what’s acceptable and what isn’t. If you are too squeamish to watch it… change the channel to Dancing With The Stars or some other form of entertainment your Liberal sensitivities are not offended by.. and leave the men’s sports for those men with the mettle, maturity and ability to recognize that competition is not always pretty. I’ve played hockey for 30 years and there’s nothing like the exhilaration of being on the ice competing, and if someone drops the gloves over an on ice incident or to protect a fellow player from a bigger, rougher player.. then I’m right there to back my teammate up. I’m sorry you’ll never have that experience.

    • MissKitty

      we should just make them wear dresses… then would you would be happy…

    • ricardo maxwell

      To the pansy with the Wayne Gretzky didn’t want fighting comment: Wayne never had to defend himself. There was always someone else on his team ready to do it for him. Kind of like today’s Democrats.

  • yo

    maybe president obama can have a beer with the kids and work it all out

    • Greg

      Some of those kids may be “flickers of Al Qaeda.” We have to be cautious.

  • Don Young

    Many have been working hard to get high school hockey recognized in Texas thorugh the Uninversity Interscholastic League (UIL). The UIL claims it’s too violent and this helps make their case. Previously us hockey parents could blame the football coaches and athletic directors who do not want to share athletes or budgets. Texas has some of the best youth hockey players in North America. Too bad this helps tarnish their image.

    • Hugo Fargo

      Don Young said, “Texas has some of the best youth hockey players in North America”

      Don, you are clueless. The best U.S. hockey players come from feeder colleges in the Northeast and Midwest.

      Way to go, Keller and Arlington Martin: you bring great shame to N. TX

      • Donal Jolley

        Hugo… that was “some of,” not “Every Single Good Player.” And feeder colleges? The discussion is on “youth hockey,” of which the vast majority of youth players are younger than college age. Once one is in college one generally is looking towards the northern states if one wishes to play truly great hockey.

      • Jah

        Really? Hockey sucks.

    • Minnesota IS Hockey

      Don Young -“Texas has some of the best youth hockey players in North America.”
      WOW! You cannot be serious! I’m assuming you said this as a joke, but I’ll bite anyways. Texas has NONE of the best hockey players in North America, I can assure you of that. As was posted earlier, check out USCHO’s high school rankings. Your 2 Texas teams that were in your state championship game are ranked in the 500’s and 800’s. Nearly EVERY small town team across the state of Minnesota has a better team than these 2 pathetic goon squads. I invite you to come up to St. Paul for the MN State High School tournament next March. You will see the highest level high school hockey in the world. Every team has several players that have already committed to Division 1 hockey programs. It’s unknowledgeable rubes like you Mr. Young that encourage these idiotic high-schoolers to goon it up because you don’t even understand the basic rules of the game, you only try to copy what you see on tv in the NHL. Trust me, your Texas state champs would get destroyed by 95% of MN high school teams, and by destroyed I mean skill-wise (skating, passing, shooting, etc.) not fighting.

      • A Hockey and Football Mom

        Please note this was the SIlver division title game, not the gold. Lower level.

      • Ken James

        Your comments are equally ignorant because it is unlikely you have any more experience with Texas hockey than Mr. Young has with Minnesota hockey. I can’t hold your state pride against you but it is a lot of hot air…

        I experienced my share of goon squads in Minnesota as well. Minnesota hockey players are no more pure and innocent than they players you’ll find anywhere else. Florida turns out some of the best hockey players in North America too. So does New York… and Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, North Dakota. Don Young is no more of an idiot than you are.

      • Steven Noah Seaholm

        The Minnesota State High School Hockey Tournament is currently the largest state sports tournament in the United States in terms of viewing and attendance, beating both the Texas and Florida’s State High School Football Tournament and the Indiana State High School Basketball Tournament.

    • Don Young is an Idiot

      “Texas has some of the best youth hockey players in North America.” —————————————————————————————————–This is the single most idiotic statement I have ever read. You are an idiot Don Young.

  • Lance

    It’s Bush’s fault!

    • Calonzap

      Lance, I am with you. I believe that Bush caused all of this.

  • garth

    Hockey is a sensless violent sport where rules matter little.

    • Connor

      you obviously don’t knows what you are talking about. first off the NHL has many rules and the players in the NHL have a code of when and when not to fight. I did a report on it and they have many rules to make hockey clean. Fighting is used to keep the fans entertained and make the sport unique and for teams to gain momentum. The kid didn’t get a broken jaw because he was in a fight, he got one because he jumped off the bench to fight and before he could he was hit by a player who hit him cheaply and from behind. He should have confronted him to his face instead. And in many other sports there are brawls. Football, baseball, and basketball have the occasional brawls just like hockey. This incident was just reported more publicly than the rest

    • Richard

      You have no clue what you’re talking about. Just the ramblings of someone who’s probably a fan of something totally boring like baseball or football. Try playing the game and then run your mouth.

      • Curious

        Then enlighten us o wise Richard. Why don’t you consider hockey senseless and violent?

      • Donal Jolley

        Richard is correct, Oh ignorant and demeaning Curious.

        Hockey requires intricate teamwork, timing and athletic skill. There are an awful lot of rules that people like Garth haven’t taken the time to look at, and there are a lot of unwritten rules amongst the players themselves that make the game faster, harder and cleaner. Players are skating on blades that have the surface area of perhaps a dime at most touching the ice at any one time. I became a fan at 42, having grown up in a desert, knowing as much about the game as Garth obviously does. (As an aside, here in Atlanta it is the THRASHERS who visit Children’s Hospital and work with kids the most, and it’s not even close.)

    • GKH

      “Hockey is a senseless violent sport”

      Garth, I’m sure playing with your cats and sewing is exciting to you, but I’d rather watch Hockey.

      • Oog the Goalie

        Me like hokkey cuz it let me hit guys with sticks. Ha ha so good to punch people. Extra y kromasome come in handy. I no like football cuz no big fights. Reel men like hokkey and fights and drinking a lot and hitting peepul.

    • John Barnett

      I guest Garth plays Tennis.

    • Jah

      Any sport where ties are a regular thing sucks. Socialist drivel infects the mind of the hockey fan.

      • CapitalSpirit

        Have you any idea how hard it is to score in ice hockey? Yes, you’re trying to put a very small puck into a very big net, but the goalie is going to have other ideas. Ties at the end of regulation are commonplace in hockey. As of this writing, there have been 1,144 games played in the NHL this season, and 280 of them have needed more than sixty minutes to settle the score. That’s about 1 out of every 4 games, give or take.

        The reason the NHL even permitted ties, historically, was a logistical one. Back before air travel–yes, the game does go back that far–teams would have to take trains between cities. And if, say, the Boston Bruins had to catch one specific train to get to Detroit or Chicago on time, they couldn’t be skating and skating until one of the goalies blinked. So ties were part of the game, because one team or the other–perhaps both–would have a train to catch, and that train wasn’t going to hold just because the hockey game was going long. That’s why ties were part of the NHL game for so long.

        And the recent regular-season tie breaker that the NHL has adopted–the shootout–is not without controversy, but that’s a whole other matter.

        Hockey is not a socialist game. In every single game, every skater on the roster is going to be out there on the ice at some point. The backup goalie might be on the bench for the whole game, but on the other hand, he might have to go out there cold with the team trailing by a bunch, and have to stand on his head if he hopes to get the win. And ALL of your forwards and defensemen will be out there at some point. And they ALL need to contribute.

        Put plainly, you can’t be a welfare case in hockey: you’ve GOT to work hard, because there will always be somebody below you on the depth chart who’s got an eye on your spot.

        Hockey isn’t socialist. You could argue that it’s actually one of the more conservative of the major North American sports.

    • ?

      Would anyone of you please explain why, in ANY other sport, a player would be ejected for fighting except for hockey?

  • keith rutsky

    its obvious that Sarah Palin’s violent rhetoric has led us to this!!!

    • Calonzap

      Keith, I’m just not sure that Sarah Palin’s violent rhetoric caused all of this or not. It could have been George Bush who caused all of it.

  • Long Live Bob Probert

    Fighting is part of the game and it shoud remain that way. The only thing wrong with this situation is that a player left the bench and hit another player from behind. Other than that, there is absolutly nothing wrong with fighting in High School hockey, or any level of HOCKEY for that matter…especially the pros. I, for one, would never attend another NHL game if fighting was eliminated.

  • Steve

    Easy to tell when Drudge links a story, isn’t it

    • Donal Jolley

      Yeah. Holier than thou comments like yours pop up everywhere.

      • Steve

        I feel left out that I didn’t get the multi-paragraph reply that you left on every other comment. Also, please kill yourself.

      • Donal Jolley

        Oooooo. You told me. That was absolutely some stunning brain work, there, Capericus.

    • Whodattabe

      I’m just surprised Drudge linked to a brawl that did NOT involve minorities at a dining establishment…

  • Aaron

    This is NOT how you fight in hockey. This is not how you defend your teammates and this is not how you lose graciously.

    I don’t blame the parents or hockey, I blame the coaches for not holding the kids on the bench. I blame USA Hockey for not INSTANTLY stepping in and crying foul.

    There’s a lot of things wrong here, and hockey isn’t one of them.

    • MisterHowdy

      They can’t “fight” because they are required to wear a full face shield/cage. Throwing punches isn’t going to do any good.

    • Donal Jolley

      Uh…. yeah. USA Hockey?

      This is the same USA Hockey that is considering taking CHECKING out of pee-wee, instead teaching it at an older age when kids can get seriously hurt by not doing it correctly? The same USA Hockey that already has stringent fighting rules? Are you saying USA Hockey condones this type of action by not immediately jumping up and down in hysteria from an incomplete and deliberately warped story painting the sport with a broad brush?

  • MisterHowdy

    Wow, this is some BS. CBS once again trying to absolve the guilty party of blame. The unedited video is here:http://deadspin.com/#!5786905
    The kid that got leveled got what he deserved. He’s the one that went for the dirty hit on someone near the boards that wasn’t aware of what was about to happen. The guy in white stood up for his team mate, and rightfully so.

  • jaded

    Lol, if they were black the tone of the comments and news would have been so different. Whatever.

    • Donal Jolley

      Yeah, and if they were Jewish cannibals dyed green with blue gills it would be different as well. Why interject race here? Get over it. Most of us are trying to, but folks like you just need to carry it on.

  • Peter

    boys will be boys….I kicked many a ass as a young’un

  • Ray

    Texas should stick to rodeos and beer drinking contests, not hockey, if they want to act this way.

  • 00Billy

    Seems sensational….

    left the bench, hit someone from behind into the boards. payback is a biatch

  • GHD

    I’m 72 when I was in HS fights in hockey were rare if ever and we had a championship team To say fighting is a legitimite part of any sport besides boxing does not display overwhelming intelligence on the part of the writer

  • happyjourneys

    teen boys fighting like that after a full game….. has to be a girl involved somehow….

    for those that do not know… there are even rules for fights at the pro level…

  • Alex

    Umm, the person who blindsided the person and broke his jaw should be facing criminal charges. Who cares if this was a game. If I bring a gun to a game and shoot somebody its not just a game. He basically attacked someone who was in a defenseless position.

  • ragu4u

    Boys will be boys. If this happened in Detroit they’d all be dead from gunshots.

  • Sports_Just_Suck

    Meanwhile our schools keep pumping money into sports and dumping music, art, gifted and talented education to keep a bunch of testosterone-fueled idiots in fresh helmets.

    • john

      wow, someone is a little butt hurt about their high school experience. There is nothing wrong in funding sports that promote teamwork, hardwork and dedication through competition. Yeah, there should be a balance, but Suzy clarinet isn’t going to bring in the big crowds thats going to raise funds for the school. Getting rid of sports in youth education is no way to combat child hood obesity, which is a major problem in America.

      • Alan

        Too bad only the jocks can attend PE at my children’s public high school because the coaches won’t practice after school….. Howz THAT help childhood obeisity?

  • A hockey and football mom

    Watch the full video in another post, not the CBS 11 short one. You will see a scrum against the boards, a stoppage of play, a player in black come flying into this scrum and hit the group ( a cheap shot if ever there was one) . Then the player in black skates away, having done his dirty work. That is when a player in white hits him. Now player in black is hurt. Had he NEVER chosen to go in and hit that group into the boards after play had stopped, no one would ever have hit him. He was not in the play against the boards at all, but CHOSE to go and deliver a big hit which could be intent to injure after a stoppage of play. He then gets hit and he gets hurt. . So……………………..do you then hold him blameless as he got hurt in the long run, or do you say wait a minute, he broke the rule, came in to a fight ( automatic suspension in highschool to be 3rd man in) and unfortunately ended up paying a price. You need to look at the whole video before you just cast blame on the kid who retailiated. The kid in black was an agitator, not an innocent player skating back to his bench to get a drink of water. Sorry he got hurt, should he play hockey beyond highschool, I can guarantee he will play the exact same way.

  • hoot87

    Want to set a standard that will reduce this kind of incident in High School Hockey? Fire both sets of coaching staffs and ban them for life as hockey coaches in the state. Suspend both teams for a year and give both teams a forfeit for the game. Force the winning team to forfeit the State Championship – name no champion for this season.

    • Donal Jolley

      While we’re at it we should ban Texas, shoot longhorns, and remove every single cube of ice from every single school in the state.

      Overreact much?

      • hoot87

        No, there is no need to accept fighting in any High School level sport (except Boxing – if it is a sport at any HS).
        If you want to send a message, send it loud and clear.
        Banning players and Coaches and forfeiting the Championship wil send a clear message to everyone that the State/League is serious about stopping the fighting.

      • Donal Jolley

        Banning coaches for life is completely ridiculous. The coach having to serve the suspension is completely in line. The reason this is a story is because it is so unusual in its severity. This is an exception. That shows the rules actually do work, otherwise this would be an everyday event.

        Forfeiting the state championship is form over reality. Sure, it’s a reasonable suggestion but everyone knows who won the championship. It was played and there was a clear outcome. So there’s no trophy. Ooooo. That will teach them.

        If you’re going to have an effect you need to stay reasonable and not punish the wrong people. If a coach has a pattern of this behavior on his team, ban him. For a one time incident? You’re robbing future players and very possibly punishing the very people who might control this the most.

      • hoot87

        Banning sets the tone that these action will not be tolerated at all. Coaches set the tone for a team – they need to be held accountable – banning those two or so sends the message to everyone else. Zero tolerance.
        Taking the trophy establishes that the Championship can not be gained through fighting – and after a few years, only those who played will remember the “winner” of the game – the record books will not. The School flies no banner, the players get no ring or jackets, etc…

      • Donal Jolley

        Zero tolerance means zero opportunity. The unexpected, unanticipated results of zero tolerance have always had the worst impact on the least deserving. Again, your overreaction would have very serious results and are not well thought through. (For example, I just heard a story two days ago of an A-student expelled and her mother charged with a felony for providing her with ibuprofin tablets to take at school.)

        Your proposals are simply hysterical reaction to an event that was unacceptable and unusual. Your solutions are destructive to individuals in particular and the sport as a whole. Banning people FOR LIFE is simply a dumb thing to consider for single-time events. That’s exactly why we have different categories and degrees of murder/manslaughter.

        I’ve well considered your points and you’re not going to change my mind based upon anything you’ve said. You’re obviously not able to expand beyond pure reactionary action or nuclear buttons launching missiles at offenders and anyone who happens to be standing near them at the time, so it appears we’re done. Any last words?

      • hoot87

        “…I’ve well considered your points and you’re not going to change my mind based upon anything you’ve said. You’re obviously not able to expand beyond pure reactionary action or nuclear buttons launching missiles at offenders and anyone who happens to be standing near them at the time…”

        And you appear to be nothing more than an apologist for those who cannot control themselves, their players, or their students during athletic competition – it is your kind of non-action that perpetuates the lack of sportsmanship that has become so prevalent today. You have not changed my mind either – everyone associated with this black eye for high school sports should be removed from the sport and no one should gain the championship that participated in that game.

  • bloodaxe

    I see they have some basic rules n all these fights, which are part of the game and the only reason anyone would watch this stuff. They don’t hit each other with their sticks and they don’t kick or stomp each other with the ice skates. Other than that, anything goes!

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