Atheists Use Independence Day To Express Freedom From God

ARLINGTON (CBSDFW.COM) – At first, it seemed to float through the air over and over. “I think they’re burning an awful lot of gas for a lost cause,” said Norm Ward as he looked up.

Although there wasn’t much of a crowd three hours before Monday night’s Rangers game, there was just enough to notice a message in the sky, towed by a small plane over the Ballpark. “If he had an F-18 bearing down on him, he might not be flying around advertising that,” said Steve Ward, Norm’s son.

As early-bird fans waited outside on this July 4th, a national atheist organization seized the moment to advertise that “atheism is patriotic.” It was a message that upset and even angered some fans. “The founding fathers were God-fearing men, said Rangers fan, Chris Snider. “You got guys dying left and right for our country who believe in God and you got a yahoo like that flying around atheism. I don’t believe that’s right.”

There were others who may not have agreed with the message, but defended the right to express it. Richard Meeks of Arlington calls himself a diehard, Republican conservative. “It’s freedom of speech. They can say whatever they want and so can I,” said Meeks.

The aerial banner was part of a national campaign by the American Atheists.

Earlier in the day at Arlington’s 4th of July Parade, the Metroplex Atheists marched with the message that “millions of Americans are patriotic without God.”

“Atheists are just as patriotic as any other group,” said Terry McDonald, President of the Metroplex Atheists. “We’re trying to overcome the misconception that atheists are not patriotic and that we’re all communists.”

From bus ads to billboards, atheist organizations have been willing to push buttons to overcome stereotypes. Atheist ads on T-buses caused a stir this past December in Fort Worth. Local ministers called for a boycott and eventually the Fort Worth Transportation Authority banned all religious ads on their buses.

  • noemail


    All the Atheists are going to spend eternity burning in Hell with the Devil.
    John 3:16

    July 4, 2011 at 9:13 pm | Reply | Report comment

    But first, a face to face meeting with the Almighty they claimed didn’t exist.

    • Anti Fariy Tale

      I am burning in hell with the devil, but your wrong on the name, its not John 3:26, its Rick Perry 7:5-11

    • Solarcide

      Good luck with that fairy tale. You’re wasting your life believing in a fictional daddy-figure in the sky. How sad for you.

  • AthiestsmackingJesus

    HAHAHA, live your life in fear, enjoy your forced-love “Christ”ians.

    • Eddy LeRoque

      why just smacking Jesus??? a curious name, and how can you smack someone that doesn’t exist?

      no love is forced, it flows

      • getitnowsmiley

        Oh, and SMACK smack smackity smack!

      • getitnowsmiley

        Look, I love you and everything, and I am going to give you eternal life in paradise, but, um, you can’t ever question me, and um, if you doubt you go to hell. Soz bout that.

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  • Loyd

    I love my God, I love my country, I love my family. I love my God because my God loves me. I love my family because my family loves me. I love my Country because my Country loves my God, my family, me and it was founded on the principal of the freedom of people and their religion. My, and our, country is stronger and has the religious strength to allow atheist to project their views. We as a people of the United States of America have the Christian might and love to let all voice their views. It does not do anything but point to their futility and demise before our Country and our Lord. Let them spend their money, speak their message, conduct their lives, and meet their maker. If they influence anyone then that person has a choice based on the constitution of our country created in God’s name to give them that right. I am happy and proud in my love of God and can say that I laugh at these expositions of futility of an organizations of lost souls. Whether wanted or not, they have my prayers.

    • narf

      Hm. So if the constitution was created for god why then does ti start with “We the people” instead of “In gods name” ?

      America is and always will be a secular nation based on the enshrinement of NO RELIGION IN GOVERNANCE in our constitution. No matter how hard you wish for it, no matter how many revisionist histories you promulgate, no matter how much you pray…. it will NEVER have been created for Christians.

      Our country was created from the amalgamation of all views, and all people, not just one sect and creed. This is what makes us so damn strong in the face of those that would do us harm.

    • AntiChrist

      Another happy lemming.

    • Dale Hubbard

      Loyd, as an Atheist, I appreciate that you are not showing as much hatred as so many other theists have done in reaction to this simple message. I think you misunderstand this message, it is not meant to convert anyone, it is meant to state that atheists are every bit as American as anyone else in this country. Many men and women that fight and die for this country are atheists. Whether you choose to believe it or not is your call, but atheism is on a radically steep ascent; not because we convert people as we have nothing to convert to, it is because people have lost their faith in the wars and hatred from christians. You are driving people away from christianity with your laughter at those who do not deserve it.

      • Gumby Rules

        I can wholeheartedly agree with your premise. There is absolutely NO requirement to be a Christian to be patriotic. I also appreciate that our own constitution give you the right to speak out pro/con on this issue. what I do not appreciate are comments as made above by “Antichrist”, “AthiestsmackingJesus” and/or others.

        I choose to believe because it makes more reasonable sense to me than believing there was nothing that went “BANG” and now there is a universe. And next came a planet, a collection of sterile dust and suddenly lightening strikes a mud puddle and life (amoebae or protozoa or mitochondria) is formed. Either scenario takes a BIG LEAP of faith.

  • Josh

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness….. Notice it says “their creator”, not ‘our’ or ‘the’ creator.

    • Solarcide

      Desim does not equal Christianity. In fact,. many of our Founding Fathers were staunchly against organised religion, and Christianity in particular. This is historical fact, no matter how your puppet masters try to revise history.

    • Marlon

      Notice it also doesn’t say a single thing about jesus or christ or any of the figurehead of christianity. If this were truly supposed to be a christian nation, don’t you think those names would have been mentioned?



    • les

      spoken like a true christian.have ever had a conversion with your god ???? if so what did he look like and what language did he ues ???

    • liz

      Atheists* The correct spelling is in the article, you don’t even have to look it up!

  • Narf

    To all Christians ….

    For me there is no heaven or hell. There is only what you make of today. This is why I strive to be good every day of my life.

    You claim to have heaven if you only ask for forgiveness so you have absolutely no incentive to be good. You could kill two thousand people and then say “I’m sorry” and all is forgiven and you get to go to heaven.

    Now which one is it again that has the stronger incentive to do good?

  • narf

    Whatever happened to freedom of (from) religion?

    I have to fear for having a job because I don’t believe in a fairy tale. I’ve had people cost me my job before because I’m not religious.

    I have to fear for being isolated from my neighbors for not believing a guy could walk on water. Only 3 people have spoken with me out of about 50 within 1 block that we’ve met in the last 8 years of living in our house. The rest give me nasty looks and walk the other way.

    I have to *fear for my life* in Texas because I refuse to join the popular cult of Christianity. I’ve been threatened and had my car vandalized in the past for being atheist. I’ve been punched in the gut several times at bars and clubs for being atheist.

    Just listen to the people in that clip. They sound like they want to do bodily harm to me simply because I don’t believe in a supreme being.

    Some days I feel like I live in Afghanistan under the Taliban. Me. An American citizen in the USA. I fear for my life because of the hatred and bigotry.

    No. I won’t reveal who I am. I fear for my life in this supposedly religious state that’s rife with “good people”.

    Simply because I don’t believe.

    • fred

      Very well said, I agree 100%. Organized religion is a cult, and unless you “play the game” you are treated differant, which goes against the core cult rules.

    • P Smith

      Is it any wonder that every fascist state is a religious state, from the crusades to inquisition, to the KKK and Nazis, to the muslim states today?

      Religious terrorism isn’t just muslim terrorism, it’s christian terrorism.

  • fred

    People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness. Just because they’re not on your road, doesn’t mean they’ve gotten lost.

    The road i am on is a hard one, I dont beg for forgivness and repeat my same mistakes every week. Until we meet up with your god, can we just get along until then?

  • Fact

    Take all the grains of sand in our world one by one, and they dont even come close in quanity to the number of planets in our universe. You really think there is a all powerfull being focusing on our single grain of sand?

  • Hrothgir Ó Dómhnaill

    Seems like Bubba in the article is a little too dim to know that there are atheists in foxholes holes making sure there’s oil to get his obese carcass to the game…

  • ConcernedChristian

    I’ve seen far too much in my 50 years on this planet, NOT to believe in God including a child cured of brain cancer through the power of prayer. A truly Christian attitude includes acceptance and forgiveness for those who do not believe. Our world has become consumed with destructive attitudes of “me first”, and worship of money to the exclusion of decency. This “in your face” attitude is yet another example of the evil that is taking over and could ultimately destroy all that we hold sacred. Divide and conquer …..

  • Diana Wilson

    Why would they pick the 4th of July to advertise this? Why do they feel the need to advertise anyway? I’m agnostic but I’m not about to advertise it nor do I feel I have to shove it down someone’s throat which is what this seems like. Good grief.

    • John Hattan

      People were complaining about the December atheist ads being too close to a religious holiday. And now someone’s complaining that the July ads are too close to a nonreligious holiday.

      How about August 8. Is that sufficiently far enough from anything to garner everyone’s approval? Or is that too close to V-J day for everyone’s comfort?

      • Diana Wilson

        “And now someone’s complaining that the July ads are too close to a nonreligious holiday.”
        It was advertised on a non-religious holiday…not just too close. My question is why on July 4th? What’s the significance? Just because there are lots of people in one location? Because that holiday refers to the Freedom of this Great Country and not anyone’s “God”.
        I don’t believe in any religious or non-religious advertising of any sort. Be human, be kind and be a part of society in a humane manner. We live, we die. Be productive in between.
        I have “No Soliciting” signs on my property but religious people think it doesn’t apply to them. I correct them every chance I get. They are soliciting for their “God” and I don’t want to hear it.

  • ZZ Toppings

    Funny how these people invoke the name of God to say they don’t believe. Their zealous behavior also indicates a desperate need to deny the deep internal struggles they’re wrestling with.

  • Land

    Atheists are not communists. That’s all we’re trying to say. Free markets, freedom of religion, pro-democracy atheists. That’s all.

    And how did the article begin? With quotes from militaristic, pro-censorship, religious bigots.

    Thomas Paine was a Founding Father, too, along with many other non-religious folks.

  • oldatheist

    Have any of the Christians ever investigated the historicity of the bible? Or even of the existence of Jesus? Or, of their God? Their bible is nothing more than a book of fairy tales and mythology; it isn’t real and never was.
    There are thousands of gods within the cultures of man. I reject them all, Christians reject all but one. So, just how close are we? One in a thousand? One in ten-thousand? One in a million? Go figure
    For more forty-five years I’ve offered a reward for proof of the existence of a god, or gods; I still have my money. Go figure.

  • liz

    I am so excited that within my lifetime there may be a significant shift in the religious mind-set of our culture. In terms of maturity of a species we are on the cusp of leaving behind the fairly tales of our ancestors that so many have taken to be true and factual without ever giving a conscious thought about it. I have never been more proud of my country!

  • Mark Moore

    I’d think if there was an F-18 in the sky, that pilot would be sworn to uphold the constitution, including the 1st amendment. Most military and ex-military pilots I’ve talked to are serious about their commitments. If I was that pilot, I’d consider that F-18 my wing man protecting my right to free speech and not some flying religious zealot like the 9/11 attackers.


    THE most powerful idea in the world.. THE one that forms the core of every religion and is also the most deeply held values of even the most secular hearts –that being “The Golden Rule.”

    Do unto others .. or conversely, ‘do not do that unto others which you would NOT have done unto you.” Sadly, many Christians place high value on being insufferable and cramming their beliefs down the throats of every human on the planet. Wnat a sad, pathetic, impotent ‘magic guy in the sky’ they cling to. What lives of fear and uncertainty they lead. When difference and diversity cannot be tolerated, things like witch burnings and holy war can’t be far behind.

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  • joebrownbear

    They lied about Sinterclaus. They are lying about Gods as well.

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