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DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) - A homeless family living at the ‘Occupy Dallas’ camp said that they will find a new place to stay in order to keep their baby. CBS 11 News was on the scene as officers with the Dallas Police Department and Child Protective Services took custody of the 9-month-old boy on Thursday afternoon.

Brian and Cathy Carpich said that they met with CPS and were told that the camp was, in their words, an unhealthy living environment. The couple cannot get their boy, Zachariah, back until their living situation improves.

There were plenty of tears coming from the family after they returned from a meeting with a woman who they called their CPS caseworker. “It’s not against the law,” pleaded Brian Carpich. “We’ve not broken any laws.”

The meeting started a few hours earlier, after police – who assisted CPS agents – took the small boy away from his parents. Police explained that they were acting on an “open child welfare case” dating back to September, but that a call from within the downtown Dallas camp prompted Thursday’s actions. “The complaint was a child in the encampment that was pretty much screaming and crying all night, and folks were concerned about it,” said Lt. Anthon Williams with the Dallas Police Department.

“My wife and baby get clothed every day,” Brian Carpich continued to argue.

Carpich acknowledged having a criminal history, but contended that his son had all of the essential diapers and necessities, and that their tent even received heat. Still, the parents unwillingly turned Zachariah over to authorities. After meeting with CPS, they returned to the camp without their son.

“We’re already in a program for housing,” explained Carpich. “They’ve basically screwed up, because the child was part of us getting housing, which we’ve been waiting for since March.”

The family’s problems have created another concern for the ‘Occupy Dallas’ organizers. CBS 11 News has learned that the campers are so unhappy with their current conditions that organizers are planning to temporarily move the protest in hopes that local homeless and squatters will leave the movement. “We’ve had a large amount of unsavory elements which have gotten plenty of media coverage,” said protest organizer Reagan Clark. “Just made people feel unsafe.”

Police had already arrested a man – a registered sex offender – who had been accused of sexually assaulting a minor.

Officers from the Dallas Police Department met with ‘Occupy Dallas’ campers Thursday night to help build cooperation and prevent further problems. Chaplins and social service workers also went tent-to-tent to ensure the safety of any children living in the camp.

Reagan explained that camp organizers are planning to select peacekeepers – who have passed background checks – to help secure the campsite. The ‘Occupy Dallas’ campers have already been living in downtown for nearly a month.

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  • Bill Haley

    There are plenty of shelters for women and women with children who are homeless. The faith based ones such as the Dallas Life Foundation do not allow couples to reside together without proof of marriage…but still, there is no excuse for a homeless couple exposing their young child to the elements.

    • SOULkidsMinister

      they have been through every sheletr in the system, believe me. Because of her mental illness and/or his substance abuse, they have been removed from or have left every one of them. The last one was the one where they had met with CPS in September and realized Z was about to be taken so they were trying to blend in with the OWS folks. They were simply taking advantage of free shelter, food and warmth which is what they know how to do to survive. It is a mindset – an abyss they have fallen into due to bad choices and mental illness – and there is little to no way out for most of them sadly. But they are are still human. We cannot just throw them away – well at lleast I can’t. “There but for the Grace of God go I”

      • Vicky Bevis

        Get off your “pity party” for them. Every line you wrote “justifies” their “right” to live where they want & how they want, which is fine until it includes an innocent infant. Then all bets are off!

        BTW, I’m a retired nurse who treated terminal kids & worked Hospice, so i’ve done it all & SEEN it all, SO I know whereof I write!

      • Maura Mikulec

        SOULkids Minister!!!!!!!! If you are talking about this family, (versus speaking hypothetically) you are violating confidentiality!!!!! Remove your post!!!!! Maybe you should not work in or minister in that field if you are so casual about sharing very confidential information. Shame on you!!!!

      • Tom

        So I assume you are taking them in your home, or paying for their rent, right?

  • http://fortworthinsight.com/news/cps-seizes-baby-from-%e2%80%98occupy-dallas%e2%80%99-site/ CPS Seizes Baby From ‘Occupy Dallas’ Site « Fort Worth News Feeds

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  • Rick McDaniel

    People no longer really have freedom in this country. That is more than obvious.

    • caligula

      you’re right! they should have the freedom and right to let their child get a communicable disease or to die of cold weather!!!

      forget the rights of the child to live in a stable, comfortable environment.

      • Oy Vey

        …and finally some common sense. Thank you!

      • FrankL.

        Irresponsible people have babies all the time, its called life. We are not responsible for your decisions to have a baby that you can’t afford. I work too hard and my money is stolen by my government to give to enemy countries around the world, so sorry, I don’t have any extra money to take care of your kids. Churches and private charities exist for this purpose. Child “protective” services is an evil government agency staffed with idiots who can’t find work in the private sector. Just ask Jacey Lee Dugard about how well CPS operates.

      • caligula

        thanks for sharing, Frank. i always like to see people’s opinions on various topics.

      • Cynthia

        And don’t forget, last night there was a hard freeze in Dallas. This action may have saved this child’s life. If he was crying all night there was a reason. Apparently, the parents hadn’t addressed whatever the problems were.

      • Locke

        Children are much more likely to be raped while in custody of the state than anywhere else.

      • Vanyali

        Yeah, and where is this stable, comfortable environment going to come from for this kid? From that CPS case worker? Is she taking him home?

        Of course not. She’s taking the kid away from his parents and sending him to hell. All because some Occupy Dallas protesters didn’t like listening to the baby cry at night. That’s just evil.

      • JM in San Diego CA

        Nailed it! (Except for the assorted numb-nuts who don’t grasp sarcasm.)

      • how2findtruthTube

        FRANK THE CPS OPERATES THEIR CHILD KIDNAPPING RINGS VERY WELL,, FROM THE LOOKS OF IT YOU ARE ALREADY AWARE

  • Really Tired

    That encampment is not a place for any children, especially as cold as it was last night. I was wondering how many of those folks are on welfare and get checks every month, how many are on unemployment, how many are on food stamps, Section 8 and all the other “entitlement programs”? Just wondering. Those on unemployment are supposed to be looking for a job and that ain’t happening there. I know one of my relatives went to “Occupy Ft. Worth” and he is on food stamps and he got paid to be there. He did not take his kids with him though. I would have called CPS myself if he had done that. He just doesn’t want to work and wants everyone else to support him. Seems to me that he fits right in with that crowd.

    • Super Mario

      Unemployment is not an “entitlement”. You pay into it while you’re working and it exists to help you in between jobs. Idiot.

      • Yoshi

        Yeah, between jobs, occupying doesn’t help you move onto the next job…. Also unemployment has been extended several times and I know quite a few people that are perfectly able to work and could find a job but choose not to, because while on unemployment they can do a lot of nothing.. one is currently in Vietnam, the other was selling drugs on the side, the last one lived at home with his parents… The only one that was saving money was the one in Vietnam, even though all 3 of the above could have saved money…

      • Brad

        Its an entitlement Mario. Do some research. Unemployment has been extended out 2 years. Most are taking FULL advantage of it and the fund is out of money. Thats why you see the man acting as president arguing with the house and the senate to extend it PAST 2 years. Jobs exist everywhere, its just that most are too proud or too lazy to obtain them.

      • Vicky Bevis

        No YOU don’t; your EMPLOYER paes into it. It doesn’t come out of your pocket; it comes out of his/hers!

      • briana

        EMPLOYERS in our state are the only ones who pay into it…employees pay NOTHING into it. So not sure where you are getting your information.

      • dam

        @Brad. You had it right until you said “too proud.” Too proud to take a job but not too proud to accept a government handout?

      • justthefacts

        Unemployment is a hidden tax that YOU DO PAY through cost increases companies pass to you the consumer. Companies don’t just pay it, they sell stuff to you then use that money to pay it. Economics101 people, learn it.

      • Tired of Ignorance

        Some do pay into it, though many do NOT!! Regardless, unemployment was NEVER intended to be used the way Obama is using it! And the way Obama is using it IS an ‘entitlement’ (though, no one is entitled to another’s money, EVER! If a person wants to give, great! Which, BTW, MANY do, majority comes from conservatives & Republicans (this is a FACT)!!

        Unemployment, how it is supposed to be used, is given for about 3-6 months, at most! It is based on your previous income & you ONLY recv it if you lost your job due to NO fault of your own! You are also REQUIRED to be actively perusing employment & must show PROOF of no less than 2-3 interviews/ job applications a WEEK, which you MUST turn in before recv’ing your next check!

        Therefore ANYONE trying to state that unemployment is anything less than 1, of many programs, that Obama trying to push a Socialistic agenda, is unbelievably NAIVE!! EVERYTHING this administration is doing is DIRECTLY out of the Communist Manifesto!!

        Another FACT- those who r on unemployment & r about to run out, DOES find employment w/ in 1-2 months Max!!

      • BigCat9

        In Ohio anyways you don”t pay into Unemployment Insurance. Only employers pay into it,

    • ditchdigger2

      He is wise in protecting his famly from CPS, some hint of responsibility. I don’t know how old this kid is, but is his pay worth living in a hobo camp, when the first Blue Northern hits. That will test his metal.

    • Tired of Ignorance

      You mentioned that your relative “Got Paid to Protest”. I’ve heard this before as well and was curious who/ what group paid him?

      I do agree w/ you! There are SO MANY that use this system! And this system traps those that do just need some help, but then can’t get off due to the loss of entitlements vs. the amount they’d need to make to make up for that difference.

      But sadly, these Occupy folk are either to ignorant to think for themselves and ask questions, not to mention 0% common sense; or they don’t care what happens to the country as long as they get a free ride (or so they think since History has PROVEN the utter failure of Socialism/ communism! One only needs to look at N.Korea vs S.Korea!)!

      What is sadder is the complete compliance of the media! Example the Moral Tea Party vs the Immoral Occupy! If you ask me, the Media, and the Occupy (of course Obama & many in Govmt) are the ones that are truly Greedy!! Not to mention envious, lustful, hateful, and on & on! Yes, there will always, sadly, be those w/ money the cheat & lie to get their wealth. But the majority of the wealthy are NOT! They do so much GOOD for those less fortunate/ motivated, MUCH MORE than the Govmt can or ever has!!

    • Tired of Ignorance

      You mentioned that your relative “Got Paid to Protest”. I’ve heard this before as well and was curious who/ what group paid him?
      I do agree w/ you! There are SO MANY that use this system! And this system traps those that do just need some help, but then can’t get off due to the loss of entitlements vs. the amount they’d need to make to make up for that difference.
      But sadly, these Occupy folk are either to ignorant to think for themselves and ask questions, not to mention 0% common sense; or they don’t care what happens to the country as long as they get a free ride (or so they think since History has PROVEN the utter failure of Socialism/ communism! One only needs to look at N.Korea vs S.Korea!)!
      What is sadder is the complete compliance of the media! Example the Moral Tea Party vs the Immoral Occupy! If you ask me, the Media, and the Occupy (of course Obama & many in Govmt) are the ones that are truly Greedy!! Not to mention envious, lustful, hateful, and on & on! Yes, there will always, sadly, be those w/ money the cheat & lie to get their wealth. But the majority of the wealthy are NOT! They do so much GOOD for those less fortunate/ motivated, MUCH MORE than the Govmt can or ever has!!

      • Tired of Ignorance

        Sorry about the double post, my computer is acting a bit crazy :0)! I can’t seem to delete the duplicate :0(.

  • goodyt

    Rick,

    The people do have the freedom to camp out in your front, or back yard if you Invite them over. I think that it is wonderful that you feel anyone who wants should have the right to occupy public parks without the attendant responsibility.

    Ergo, if you let them have their “freedom” in your yard everyone will be happy!!

  • Carey Bst

    If the Occupy movement can adopt an anti-corruption platform instead of the disjointed messages, they will become much more effective. One Occupy member’s page progressivist.hubpages.com/hub/story-jeff-baron seems to go a long way in starting down that road.

  • jj cambell

    I cannot believe these sqatters are allowed to put up tents and live on
    public and private land within a city.. Its costing citizens,its unhealthy, and dangerouse. If you or I decided to put up a tent and live in it we would be arrested.
    In the big picture global unions and progressive socialists in the Senate(there are 70 of them) are using these squatters for political gain.
    I
    Let them march but living in tents is unsanitary and should not be allowed.

    • Super Mario

      Obviously you never served in the military. haha

  • Chris McPhail

    CPS is a child kidnapping ring. “The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.” – Thomas Jefferson

    • Liz Salander

      I second the motion.

    • Super Mario

      I third that motion.

    • ditchdigger2

      The crimminal and the government are both stripping the U.S. Citizen of their rights. Nothing new, its called oppression.

  • LAZRTX

    Just avoid downtown Dallas and there is no problems. The people camping there are mentally unstable.

  • August

    That poor baby; being in the hands of CPS puts that baby’s life in peril: physical abuse and at-risk for sick sexual thing to happen to him….

    • M.S.S.

      As a former foster parent and now the adoptive mother of 3 kids from foster care, I take offense at your reference to CPS. Yes, they are not perfect but all of the kids I ever had in my care were taken from parents who were into drugs and alcolhol and didn’t take care of their children. My children now have a safe and loving environment to live and grow in without drugs and addicts coming in and out of the house. I don’t drink or smoke and do not associate with anyone who does. So quit making general statements that you cannot back up…

      • Liz Salander

        MSS – you are a kidnapper.

      • Oy Vey

        …and you’re a moron who can’t do better than the typical “I know you are but what am I” type of infantile retorts.

      • Super Mario

        How often do you touch them in thier special places?

      • Canof Sand

        Liz, “Mario,” you are sick, perverted, hatemongering tools. You have no evidence whatsoever to spout your smears against foster parents like “M.S.S.” But of course, that doesn’t matter to you, because FACTS don’t matter to you. You have mental and moral problems. Seek counseling.

      • ditchdigger2

        God bless you, here in Kalivornyka, we need more like you.

      • M.S.S.

        Just goes to show there are sick people who condemn others because they are ignorant of the real world. When you receive a 14-month-old child in the middle of the night because he has a broken arm done by a relative as well as both of his knee caps being broken before he was saved and protected, you will have a different view of foster parents and why we do what we do. You do need counseling big time…

    • Keith in Seattle

      Naw, just let the baby live in the tent in unsanitary conditions and maybe catch pneumonia and die. That’s the ticket YEAH! Get real.

  • tinkerthinker

    Why are those people still there? The whole thing needs to go.

    • ditchdigger2

      Winters a commi’n, the homeless and the street crimminals are starting to prey on them, this will go away until spring. Same mistake Nepoleon, Hitler, made, only on a mini scale.

    • SweetOlBob

      Tinkerthinker: These people are there because folks like Soros, ACORN, and other un Americans paid a few malcontents to start an unorthodox “protest” against nothing in particular. Paid groups such as this will always draw out the real weirdo and sicko portion of society. That’s what they have done. They will probably remain there, fueled by their mental derangement until they are forcibly removed.

  • jw

    More ridiculous government intervention–but they don’t touch the bankers or corporations.

    • dj

      Your ignorance is unparalleled. So I guess Bernie Madoff is one of those that was untouched. You’re comparing child abuse to banking. What exactly should they do to the corporations. It would be almost impossible to have an intelligent conversation with you based on such an ignorant comment.

      • Damon F.

        Bernie Madoff was neither a banker nor a corporation.

  • Otis

    So the homeless are now unsavory? They aren’t part of the 99%? How very bourgeois. Power to the proletariate! Down with OWS elitests! Sombody needs to listen to the song “Don’t Get Fooled Again” by the Who.

    • Canof Sand

      Maybe that someone is you. The song is about tools pushing for “revolution” and when they get their way, nothing really changed for the better. Who’s pushing for “revolution” here? Oh, that’s right. Useful idiots. Claiming THEY “won’t be fooled” only shows you’re a useful idiot as well.

      We don’t need revolution or redistribution or any of the other filth these useful idiots chant about or their puppetmasters plan to bring about. We need restoration – of values, personal responsibility (no handouts!), and the Constitution. We need to be a nation of laws, not men, and that means the laws need to be enforced, not complicated with endless piles of economy-killing red tape.

      • Canof Sand

        Eh, perhaps misread your comment, and there’s no edit button. You get the point, though.

      • ditchdigger2

        Doe’s over a few million notice the stop of comment on FOX, whats up?

  • atrollsays

    Hey Occupy you are getting EXACTLY what you are protesting for. BIG GOV WILL TAKE THAT BABY FEED IT CHANGE IT. Take care of its education and medical needs. ISNT THAT WHAT YOU ALL WANT!

    • Bryce Anderson

      If there were adequate assistance for struggling families, the child wouldn’t have been taken away. As they said in the interview, they had been trying to get on government housing for months. Now that they no longer have custody, they no longer qualify for that housing.

      Had more housing been provided, the waiting list would have been shorter, and this whole situation probably would have been avoided. Of course, if we lived in a society that adequately cared for the poor, #OWS would be unnecessary.

      This isn’t a show of “big government”, but a demonstration of a government that would rather kick its citizens while they’re down than help them succeed. Of course, the former kind of government is much cheaper to operate, and is therefore supported by the right wing.

  • fecal_heroes

    Sounds like Dallas is a prison, but of course the fascist Shrub lives there. I hope I hear more such critics from the cancer that is Crony Capitalism, as their comments are the most laughable and condemnatory.
    In other words the very parasites (or useful idiots) feeding on the entrepreneurial, middle class, can’t handle being confronted with the truth. They really have earned all the steamy excrement patriots everywhere can provide.

    As far as the freedom fighters victimized by these very apparachiks of the Fed, IMF and World Bank, the nation’s prayers are with them. And with the Anonymous brigade.

    • Canof Sand

      Anonymous is a group of lowlife thugs with no sense of moral boundaries or respect for just laws, private property, and private/personal information. If you’re with them, you’re not with the American people, no matter how many lies you tell yourself.

  • Dan R

    “The complaint was a child in the encampment that was pretty much screaming and crying all night, and folks were concerned about it,” said Lt. Anthon Williams with the Dallas Police Department. – ME; I think I’m getting used to these dirty hippies #OccupyTheNews but why is an officer calling a baby “IT”???

    • Canof Sand

      Because that’s common practice in the English language? Oh no, that CAN’T be it, cuz he’s a COP and we all must assume the worst when dealing with “the pigs,” amiright?!?!111 You’re disgusting.

  • Mike Notsaying

    by the way cbs stop being puss bags and let me post my peaceful political opinions , i notice every time i mention the con**ution of the usa the message never shows up , you only post the sides of the arguments you agree with

  • George Johnson

    So, the “99%” is slowly becoming the “1%”??

    The elitism is turning my stomach….

  • http://altealsblog.wordpress.com Al Teal

    Just being at one of these protests is proves that you are an idiot and/or you have no morals. Some idiots can raise children without damaging them but if you have no morals, you are unfit to be a parent.

  • HPS

    There is a BIG difference between A PROTEST and A OCCUPATION.. The people at the OCCUPATION are NOT PROTESTING they are PARTYING.. AVOIDING RESPONSIBILITY and SQUATTING on land that is NOT there’s we hear how they WANT from the RICH but when a homeless person WANTS from them as compared to a homeless person THEY are the RICH they yelp.. try to avoid them.. don’t SHARE with them.. BUT THESE OCCUPIERS are JUST LIKE THEM.. THEY WANT SOMETHING for NOTHING.. As far as the baby goes.. ONLY and IDIOT parent would take a child into this kind of environment don’t deserve a baby they deserve a @$$ beating..

  • http://www.belch.com/blog/2011/11/04/idiot-occupiers-get-baby-taken-by-child-protective-services/ Idiot Occupiers Get Baby Taken by Child Protective Services

    [...] CBS here: A homeless family living at the ‘Occupy Dallas’ camp said that they will find a new place to [...]

  • hector

    haha the local dallas cops are the ones picking up the homeless from mockingbird and dropping them off at the occupy protests to keep them fed and warm.
    Gotta love how all this is going full circle.
    Oh p.s. you can’t get a job if you are out camping in the cold.

    • barbara

      yes the police are doing this. to make the protesters look worse. It is all a part of how any grass roots movement is discredited.

      • Canof Sand

        And I suppose those eeevil police also forced those other OWS guys to defecate on a police car, neighbors’ doorsteps, and in bushes? And throw bottles and stones at the police (as an OWSer admitted to MSNBC when the “reporter” was trying to vilify the police and paint OWS as peaceful)? And forced them to break store windows all over Oakland and elsewhere? And push that cop off his motorcycle? And leave their camp sites full of trash and filth and stink up the place? And spout anti-Semite comments? And hand out Far Left extremist literature and recruit for the Communist Party? And obstruct traffic and ports? And trespass on private property? And bum rush policemen and security guards in the streets and in museums? And threaten people with violence and kidnapping? And hide rape and other serious crimes, allowing criminals to do as they please, because they don’t want to hurt their oh-so-great “Cause”? And…

  • Richard Crosslin

    As much as I love my hippie friends and sympathized because I feel so disenfrancized myself, this story underlines several issues that make it impossible for me be enthusiastic with their ideology.

    I don’t feel like a group of unhappy people have the ‘right’ to tear up a park that I help pay for with my taxpayer dollars.

    I don’t want to pay for policemen and social services to take care of these people.

    I don’t want to think of these people as better and more worthy of using public land than homeless and panhandlers.

  • grnma moses

    this would be a great job for obama, he was and is a very good oranizer,which is what he did prior to getting elected by the left drive by media…

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