State Rep Wants 10 Commandments In Schools

CANTON (CBSDFW.COM) – State Representative Dan Flynn of Canton wants the Ten Commandments to be displayed in Texas public schools.  He’s filed a bill giving schools the option to put the commandments in the classrooms and common areas.

Representative Flynn says he does not believe putting the Commandments in the schools violates the separation of church and state.  He points out the Ten Commandments are prominently displayed in the U.S. Supreme Court building.

Flynn says he’ll make every effort to get the Legislature to pass the bill during the upcoming session that starts in January.

  • mike wiley


    • Chuck E. Jesus


  • joe

    Nope..its one person’s faith when we have it or not that’s reality

  • melvin

    Yes:Let’s do what God says.In all thy ways acknowledge Him,and He shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:6 .

    • Lukas

      And you’re welcome to acknowledge your god in your own home. Public schools, however, are PUBLIC. They’re for everyone, including those who disagree with you.

      If you want to legislate religion, I suggest you move to Iran. You’d feel much more at home there.

    • Chris Conner

      I think that’s an interesting one, but not as interesting as psalms 137:9

      Blessed be he that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock.

      Infanticide ftw!!!

      • Erin Ingram

        Critics often bring up this verse as an attack on the validity of the Bible. But, does the Bible teach that it is okay to kill children? The answer, of course, is no it doesn’t. But we must ask what the Psalmist was saying and why he was saying it.

        The context of Psalm 137 is the Babylonian captivity. The Psalmist speaks of the captors tormenting the people of God (vv. 1-3), a promise to remember Jerusalem (vv. 5-6), and a curse against the captors (vv. 7-9).

        The Psalmist is in exile and had probably witnessed the atrocities committed against his people, babies included. In the revenge-style that was so common at the time, he wishes the same upon his enemy as a description of their utter destruction. Nowhere does it say that God approves of the Psalmist’s request or that he fulfilled it. Just because it is recorded that the Psalmist wrote the imprecation, doesn’t mean it was approved by God.

        It is worth noting that the Old Testament records many atrocities. The fact is that God allowed people their sinful desires and he worked within their culture, even as he does now, as he permits all kinds of bad things to happen. Nevertheless, God introduced what is called the Apoditic Law (Exodus 21:24): an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. The Apoditic Law was instituted to prevent the increase of blood revenge, a practice where revenge would escalate out of control between two parties. Since the hearts of the fallen are so wicked and the harsh environment and culture produced difficulties for survival, God has a few options to counter their proclivity towards evil. He can run roughshod over their free will and force everyone to obey him, or he could wipe them all out (he had already done this with Noah’s flood), or he could work within the situation at hand. In the case of this psalm, and it’s Babylonian captivity context, God chose to work with people and through them instead of violating the freedom he had given them and forcing them to act in a manner that he instructs. Therefore, the Psalmist is expressing his curse against Babylon, a natural response to what his people have already suffered.

        Also, the critics need to provide an acceptable, objective moral standard by which they can criticize biblical morality. It is one thing to complain. It is another to offer a justification for the validity of the complaint. By what right and by what objective ethical standard do the critics offer moral condemnation against Biblical morals? This is a serious question that if not answered by the critics, renders the critics’ complaints moot. After all, you must first have a standard against which to measure good and bad and without a standard, no complaints can be legitimately offered.

      • Randy

        Erin – You really should practice the independent thought process instead of plagiarism….

    • Chuck E. Jesus

      Which god?



  • cs



    • MB

      CS Before getting your knickers in a knot, about the ACLU wanting to remove crosses from fallen soldiers’ graves, you should check that your sources have some credibility. It would seem you read and believed the email that has been circulating regarding this. It takes very little investigating to find out that that email is full of misinformation. From the tone of your note, perhaps there are other things about which you are mistaken. It is fine to be passionate about issues, but it is prudent to ensure the information upon which tou base that passion is correct.

    • Mark P

      No they aren’t. Whoever told you that was lying.

    • Jeff Sherry

      Pure BS CS.

      • Jake


    • Sparrowhawk

      Says someone who can’t even bother to type the letters in ACLU in the correct order.

    • Martin Wagner

      The ACLU/military crosses myth:

      Next time grow a cerebrum and stop getting your “news” from Rush and Fox, cs. They’re lying to you, to make your fearful and compliant. You may need to look the second word up.

    • Technomancer

      That’s pure and utter bs. The ALCU prevents discrimination based on religion, race, sexual orientation, and any other UNCONSTITUTIONAL discrimination. They protect far more christians than they do anyone else. But they also prevent religious nuts from imposing their faith onto people that DON’T hold them.

    • Chuck E. Jesus

      Wow, how easily misled you are. That is a false rumor.

  • Don Ratterree

    The first four commandments honor God; the remaining 6 honor man. My pastor teaches every sin is a sin of dishonor. A misunderstanding about honor permeates our nation. There was a time when people quickly new what was right and what was wrong. Today, people are confused and basically want to do whatever they want to do. It was never intended by our founding fathers for God to be taken out of our government and country. This country and its government has turned away from God and that is major problem — just look at what is happening. Wake up folks! The Ten Commandments bring clarity and will restore honor.

    • davetheatheist

      I’m sorry what does the 10 commandments say about rape, child molestation, incest, and having sex with animals. Now you can’t say that they are obvious and didn’t need to be added. I would think that not killing and stealing are pretty obvious as well but they made it.

    • Lukas

      My local shaman teaches that you’re an idiot and all your property should be confiscated and given to me. I guess we should legislate that too.

      Or, alternatively, we could agree that religion should be a private matter and the government should stay completely out of it.

    • Martin Wagner

      How exactly do the 10C’s “bring clarity and restore honor”? One of them — not to covet your neighbor’s possessions — is in fact in clear opposition to the fundamentally American principles of free enterprise. In our economy, covetousness spurs competition, which boosts economic growth. One company is enjoying greater success than another company. The other company realizes that in order to succeed, it must improve its services and products, because they COVET the first company’s customers and their success. To tell people they cannot covet is absurd and un-American.

      As for other practical commandments, such as those against killing and stealing and lying, well, most Christians violate those all the time without feeling too bad about it. And anyway, those are basic principles that do not need a religious context to be understood.

      In short, there is no moral guidance whatsoever offered by the 10C’s that cannot be better understood in a secular system, and there are things in the 10C’s that have nothing to do with morality at all. The myths of 2000 years ago are no longer needed in an enlightened modern age for guidance.

    • Sparrowhawk

      The Constitution is clear on religion. Congress isn’t allowed to make laws that establish a religion. This has been interpreted in subsequent amendments and court decisions to apply to state and local governments. Putting a Christian artifact that promotes Christian doctrines in a government-run, tax-payer-funded public school is a violation of this. I’m sorry that you disagree, but you are just flat-out wrong. No one is trampling your rights to promote your religion on your own or to teach it to your own children, but the government has no business coercing kids toward any single religious view.

  • Martin Wagner

    How many lawsuits over this kind of theocratic idiocy do we have to have before pandering idiot politicians get the message? For a bunch of people who claim to believe in “small government,” they sure are eager to use the government to shove religion down everyone’s throats. For everyone who thinks it’s such a great idea to mix government and religion, great, go live in Iran for a little while and see how you like it.

    Carolyn: Exactly what “rights” have you had taken away, poor baby?

  • Justin

    I cannot fathom the idiocy of people like this. This is a blatant violation of the 1st amendment. Why do so many people not get that?

    Carolyn: All Americans have a right to a secular government. The founding fathers though that separation was so important that it was made amendment #1 (and so important that Jefferson took the time to clarify the amendment and it’s intentions).
    You do not have the right to force your religious views upon others and you do not have the right to place religious items in state/federal buildings. Doing so is a violation of the rights of everyone in that municipality.

  • uzza

    After reading all the above comments, I am convinced that every school should have a prominent display of the Ten Commandments of Spelling, Grammar, and the use of Cap Lock.

    • Martin Wagner

      @uzza: Yes, don’t you get the distinct impression that the people who left those comments spent a little too much time as kids with religion, and not enough doing their homework?

    • Yorik

      But then you would have them justifying their delusions of English by pointing out the old adage of “The three R’s: Readin’, ‘Ritin’ and “Rithmatic.”

      • Mark P

        The need to add “Reasoning” to that list.

  • Raby Jairam

    @ Carolyn, why not follow your own advise, go live in a country where none of their amendments grant freedom from religion and separation of church and state, and where Christianity is the state religion, where people are burned for being witches, or for following a different denomination or religion. Where people are stoned for heresy or blasphemy. Where science and technological advancements are hindered due to someone else’s fairy tales. Where degradation and suppression of women is acceptable because the holy scripture says so.

    No one is taking your rights away. You can be a deluded Christian if you’d like. You just don’t get to impose your fairy tales on other people who may believe differently or may not believe at all. That’s the way the first amendment intended it to be.

  • Eric

    People seem confused. Even if the founding fathers were Christian (that’s a big if), that doesn’t make us a Christian nation. They had enough foresight and humility to ensure equal religious protection for all people. They knew well enough the tyranny of mixing religion and government.

  • Yorik

    Can Texas please secede already? Let them have their own little nation, so that in 25 years, it won’t be insane extremist Muslims we’ll be worried about, it will be insane, extremist Christians.

  • Dale

    I think that’s great as long as we also display other passages from the Bible. How about some excerpts from Leviticus 20, for example?

    9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.

    10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

    And so on, and so forth.

    • Martin Wagner

      Whoops. Verse 10 ought to have Newt Gingrich on the run! :-) Plus, oh, about 10,000 ministers of various denominations…

  • Chris Pederson

    No one is taking anybody’s rights away. Everyone is free to worship whatever they want. But the government cannot favor one religion over the other, even if that religion is in the majority. Please oh please let’s stop wasting our dwindling tax dollars on lawsuits and spend that money on our children and making all of our lives better.

  • Ryan Northcott

    Why is it every time I turn around I’m getting slapped in the face with someones “good” book?

    And just what are you Christians so scared of that makes you need to have this constant barrage of biblical references all around you? Are you afraid that if you stop reminding yourself you’ll forget or is it something more subconscious, like your brains are fighting to keep itself washed.
    If you don’t get your bible fix are you afraid that you might actually realize you’re wrong?
    Which isn’t to say you are, I’m not sure. Thats the beauty of having a lifetime to think about stuff, you get to make up your mind. A lot of choices in the world, let us make up our own minds (It’s called free will, right?)

    I think you people are crazy,

    It’s always these same (old, white) people that want an official US religion that still think gay = evil, that brown is bad, and that pot is worse than booze. They are like the old nosy neighbor that likes to snoop through your email and subject everyone to illegal searches at the airport.

    Martin, Have you read the book “Empires”?

  • Raby Jairam

    And why stop there? Let’s put up every other religions’ scripture while we’re at it, just for the sake of including every religion. Let’s put up Hindu verses, Muslim verses, Buddhists, Taoist, Norse, Egyptian, etc. But if we do that, some parents might get offended, and they will most likely be Christians.

    Why don’t Christians just come right out and say what they really think, that the first amendment is rubbish, and that they want to live in a Theocracy. Skip the foreplay.

  • Jen Peeples

    Which version of the 10 commandments are we talking about here? The Jewish version, the Catholic version, or the Protestant version? Can you mix & match, or does it have to be a “pure” version?

    Instead of a religious text, whose contents the believers can’t seem to agree on anyway, why not post a copy of the Bill of Rights in every classroom? Even Republicans and Democrats agree on what they are, and most Tea Partiers could probably learn them if given enough practice.

  • Ryan Allan

    Great lets go for it, lets allow the christians to have their ten commandments followed by the muslims,hindus,seikhs,scientologists, buddhists, mormons, pagans and anyone else who wants to join the party, in the interest of fairness of course. It’s funny how hypocritical christians are when it comes to the display of other religious texts. Do any of you christians think you would advocate a pagan text in your kids classrooms!? well, we all know the answer is ‘no’ and the secular comunity feels exactly the same way about your religion. The first amendment is very clear and the founding fathers were very aware of the implications of the state meddling in religious affairs. Prblems are arising due to misinterpretation of the constituation and a deliberate attempt to force religious dogma upon others. You do not have the right any more than I would have the right as an atheist to include a ‘God does not exist’ monument in your schools displaying secular humanist values. Kids also have the right to choose their own religion if any at all, they should make that choice independently of what anyone else wants them to believe including their parents. Afterall it is a decision which will govern their lives.

    @Carolyn: Actually you are the one who is advocating taking others rights away. You have a right to your beleifs but you do not have the right to force them on others in schools. The USA is not a ‘christian nation’ it is a secular nation that happens to have a predominantly christian population. You should really inform yourself before making idiotic remarks that display a lack of understanding of your own consitution.

  • Nathan

    Do Pastafarians have a comparable version of the 10-Cs? …Just a thought.

    • Jordan

      @Nathan: I believe they have the 8 I’d Rather You Didn’ts

  • The Head Geek

    Luckily everyone in America worships the same version of the Christian god that he does. Which one is this guy for? Baptist? Southern Baptist? Pentecostal? Catholic? There are so many versions.

    It says in one of those commandments “Do not have any other gods before me”. It’s important to know which one since the kids are bound to ask these questions.

  • Ryxios

    To everyone who wants this to go through;

    Protip: Please look up the establishment clause of the First Amendment and realize that this is clearly a violation of that, thanks.

  • A True Texan

    It is a shame he isn’t fighting to abolish superstition.

  • Shawn

    Stone v Graham, 1980 (449 U.S. 39 ).

    The US Supreme Court ruled that the required display of the Ten Commandments in the Kentucky public schools is a clear violation of the Establishment Clause.

    QUoted from the decistion: “A Kentucky statute requiring the posting of a copy of the Ten Commandments, purchased with private contributions, on the wall of each public school classroom in the State has no secular legislative purpose, and therefore is unconstitutional as violating the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.”

    I doubt that there’s any way that a lw could be written in Texas that would avoid this kind of sectarian purpose, thus rendering the law moot in the eyes of SCOTUS.

  • jlmww

    I’m sorry to say that this will probably happen, but aside from being another distraction from getting an education, it won’t have much effect on how students behave, any more than the recitation of two Pledges of Allegiance have. Kids are smart enough to know that you can’t give your allegiance to two flags at the same time, and that any oath that has to be repeated every day can’t mean much. And they’ll be smart enough to realize that a list of ten commandments, only two of which are actually illegal, can be largely ignored when they are only enforced by somebody’s invisible friend.

  • Arthur Ice

    Which ten commandments? protestant, catholic, or jewish?

    now explain to me how whichever one you pick is NOT an endorsement of religion….have fun.

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