Burglar Shot & Killed While Breaking Into Rural Home

By Matt Goodman, CBSDFW.COM

February 19, 2012 9:51 PM

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ALVARADO (CBSDFW.COM) – A man visiting a home in rural Alvarado shot and killed a suspect who was attempting to break into the residence early Sunday morning, said Johnson County Sheriff’s Department spokesman Tim Jones.

Sheriff’s deputies and Mansfield Police responded to an emergency call reporting a burglary at a home in the 4100 block of CR 617 at 2:04 a.m. Sunday, Jones said.

When deputies arrived, the resident and a visitor told them a suspect was wandering around outside the home. The resident called 911 to report the activity and ran to another room to get away. Gunshots then rang out, Jones said.

The visitor told investigators that he fired at the suspect multiple times as he tried to enter the home through a back door.

The suspect, identified as Torey David Orgeron, 34, ran to the backyard and collapsed in the grass, Jones said. He was dead at the scene.

Neither the resident nor the victim were arrested. Jones said the Johnson County District Attorney’s Office is now reviewing the case.

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Mac

Don’t outlaw guns….outlaw idiots!
CONFUSED

JUST A QUESTION….WHY WOULDN’T HE KNOCK ON THE FRONT DOOR?
Carl

May it be so with ALL would be burglers……….
Darin

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Doesn ‘t matter what he did in the past, it’s what he did at that moment that made the occupants fear for their safety. Nest time, pick a house in a state where every resident doesn’t own a legal firearm.

Never forgotten

So, since you seem to know everything about what happened, and what was going on that night, please tell me what he did that made the occupants “fear for their safety”.

Vince

Apparently you didn’t read the article. He had been waling around the house and attempted to enter through the back door.
He may have been a nice person at one point. Hell, he might have been a “nice guy” until his death. But, even “nice guys” steal and we don’t know what was in his heart
(Before the bullet I mean.)

j arroyo

Is that why you have to crouch down and be peeking inside of a home that is not yours at 2 in the morning. People get what they deserve.

Jennifer

Your mother should be ashamed to call you her child!! Nobody deserves to die no matter what happens!! For someone to act so senseless is ridiculous!!

RENEE

I’LL BE DAMN TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO BREAK INTO MY HOME!!! I OWN A FIREARM AND IT IS LEGAL THEREFORE YOU BETTER BELIEVE ILL USE IT ON SOMEONE WHO A) BREAKS THE LAW AND B) HAS THE AUDACITY TO ENTER MY SAFE DWELLING. SO JENNIFER IF A 250 LB MAN WAS BREAKING INTO YOUR HOME, YOU WOULD RISK BEING RAPED AND KILLED? SERIOUSLY! WHY WAS HE AT THAT WOMANS HOUSE EARLIER THAT DAY? WAS IT AN AFFAIR? OR DID SHE HAVE A BOYFRIEND WHO FOUND OUT? YOU NEED TO ELABORATE BEING THAT YOU SAY WE DON’T HAVE THE WHOLE STORY. SO PLEASE ELABORATE. BUT FOR YOU TO SAY NO ONE DESERVES TO DIE NO MATTER WHAT, WELL IMAGINE IF YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN WERE IN DANGER IN YOUR OWN HOME. YOU GOING TO TELL ME THAT YOU WOULD JUST SIT THERE AND WATCH SOMEONE RAPE OR KILL YOUR KIDS OR FAMILY? COME ON!!
strat4jazz

Jennifer, your compassion for losing your friend is commendable however, this is Texas, we are armed and we will defend our property and the people inside that property. If your buddy was so stupid to think trying to force his way into a residence at 2:01 in the morning in a rural setting wasn’t going to get himself shot then he was in need of MHMR therapy. I’m sorry your friend is gone, but this warning should go out to everybody: If you are attempting to enter a residence at 2 AM, and that residence is not yours, you better call or have your will updated because you will be treated as a criminal and probably shot.

Never forgotten

He knew the girl who lived there, she was a co-worker of his. He wanted to be inside out of the cold (Do you have any idea how cold it was that night?). So he was checking to see if she would let him in to warm up. You people are so quick to judge without hearing the whole story.

Puhlease!!

Lol seriously?! he was cold so its ok to climb through a window??
Never forgotten

Puhlease!!, Who said he was climbing through a window?
RENEE

seriously? like boomer says on espn ‘COME ON MAN’. And how were you able to come up with that conclusion? Did he call you while he was dying on front lawn? He could of went to a waffle house. Come on…. can’t you come up with something better than that.
strat4jazz

And you were there Never Forgotten ? Your story is just as the other stories, heresay. If he’s a friend of theirs, why didn’t he call and tell them he was at the back door ?
Vince

“He was a co-worker” that was trying to get into her house “because he was cold?” Good thing He didn’t GO TO THE FRONT DOOR AND RING THE FRAKKING BELL. No, no! He was drunk stalking this girl and was just going to go inside and “warm up”, right?

The truth is all!!

Ok see it’s comments like this that twist the whole story around. It seems you must know the home owner did she say this to you?

j arroyo

He had no business there in the first place and at those hours of the morning.
Tom

so let me see if I got this right,,, the people inside knew the guy forcing his way in… ok,,, and the guy had been there before ? right ??? so, since a high number of murderers knoiw their victims, and often have been at the victims homes beforehand,,, why should these people not try to stop the place where they are sleeping , from being invaded ?? … and even in texas, you are allowed to defend your own body, regardless of where it is located at the time,… and have you not read the cases where neighbors have shot people breaking into the house next door ??? they don’t goi to prison either. bottom line is, you start forcing your way into any house, knowin the people in it, or not, you deserve whatever you get. try it at my home, see what happens, and by the way, hanging out with me for a while before you try it, might slow me down by about 3/4 of a second.

Never forgotten

Who’s to say he was forcing his way inside though? They don’t know whether he was or not. Does it say anywhere in the police reports that there were any marks to prove he was trying to force his way in? (When i say “they” I’m referring to the media)
RENEE

THANK YOU TOM!!! YOU SAID IT ALL! DITTO! LET THEM TRY IT ON ME!!! I HAVE 2 PISTOLS AND I SHOOT PRETTY WELL!! DAMN WELL!! BTW AND I WON’T BE SAYING “I HAVE A GUN, AND YOU BETTER LEAVE.” YOU BETTER BELIEVE ONCE I PICK UP THAT GUN AND TURN THE SAFETY OFF, I’M UNLOADING!!!

Missing my friend Torey

first of all..if u know torey then u know that he is not a buglar. he has any and everything he wants and then some. how can u break in some ones house if u were there a few minutes a go and u and your fiance works with the lady who’s house they were at. Torey has a heart the size of Texas and wouldn’t hurt no one or take anything from them. He was my close friend and my co-worker. It’s all a lie. and TOM…u r a complete idiot!

RENEE

IT’S A LIE???????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? AND BTW TOM YOU ARE NOT AN IDIOT!! BTW IF HE HAD THE HEART OF TEXAS, HE SHOULD FOUND A HOME THAT WASN’T OCCUPIED, BEING THAT TEXAS IS SO HUGE….. BTW THOUGHT HE WAS THERE BC HE WAS COLD…. SOMEONE PLEASE GET THEIR STORY STRAIGHT…

Jennifer

Renee your just an IDIOT!!! All you want is to be heard cause you think your cool cause you’ve got a gun and you will use it!! And as far as you saying “rape” where did that come from? Nothing speculated that he was gonna rape anybody,get your story straight broad!! He obviously knew the lady, and went back to get out of the cold!! ALL YOU PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE SOME COMPASSION FOR HIS FAMILY!! NOBODY DESERVES TO LOSE THEIR LIFE, NO MATTER WHAT!!!
RENEE

Jennifer… no i’m not an idiot. You said “NO ONE DESERVES TO LOSE THEIR LIFE, NO MATTER WHAT.” I was referring to what you said. “NO ONE DESERVES TO LOSE THEIR LIFE, NO MATTER WHAT.” So my question was, if you were at home with your family and kids and someone broke in your home and assaulted you, your kids or further more raped your kids, (and you owned a gun) you mean to tell me that you would just sit back, watch and allow it to happen????? I’m sorry but their are situations where deadly force is needed so for you to make such an ignorant comment saying no one deserves to lose their life no matter what, then you must be a coward. Your home is your safety net, and as a parent you are to protect your children. I’m sorry for what happen to your friend, it’s a tragedy. And hopefully they do a thorough investigation, better yet if nothing results from an investigation then you and your family need to file a civil law suit. So why don’t you stop attacking people and calling people names on here, because last time i looked up idiot in the dictionary it surely didn’t include TOM OR I. And to be brutally honest, WAFFLE HOUSE IS OPEN 24 -7, WHY DIDN’T HE GO TO WAFFLE HOUSE IF HE WAS SO CALLED “COLD”? TOM SAID IT BEST MOST VICTIMS KNOW THEIR ATTACKERS. SO WHATEVER THE REASON TOREY WAS AT THIS WOMAN’S HOME AT 2 AM IN THE MORNING, HE HAD NO BUSINESS THERE AND HOPEFULLY THIS STORY PROVIDES KNOWLEDGE AND INSIGHT TO ANYONE WHO THINKS ABOUT GOING TO SOME WOMAN’S HOME AT 2 AM. I’M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS, AND YOU CALLING PEOPLE NAMES LIKE IDIOT, DOESN’T LOOK TOO CLASSY!!! BC LAST TIME I CHECKED, I WAS IN MY BED SLEEPING AT 2 AM.

Missing my friend Torey

TO THE PERSON NAME puhlease)))))..who said he was climbing through a window..can u not read..it said he was going through the back door..omg..smart dumb ppl
Missing my friend Torey

J ARROYO…IT WAS A GET TOGETHER THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

j arroyo

like I said get your facts straight

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Ted

Met Torey a few years ago. Visited with him a few times and my impression was he was a good human being and a very nice guy. He wouldnt have been so embraced by and drawn so close to so many if he was a jerk or a bad guy. He worked at a large company and was known by many. Sure wouldnt have tried to break in thats for sure. May have been drinking (or not) and used bad judgement by going to a back door is the worst I can even think of. It is all a mistake somehow and MUST be thoroughly investigated. Some people when they are accused and you really know their character, you can believe guilty or not guilty in a moment because you already know. Torey…not guilty. I agree you have to defend your life and property…I would. But how many times have you heard of someone shooting first and then asking questions. Obviously they didnt look or couldnt see. What if it were a member of your family? Might you feel differently? Dont be so quick to pass judgement and I wont either by calling some of you an idiot. And shame on 11 news calling him a burglar instead of an alleged burglar…poor choice of words. RIP Torey. Your family, and especially KR are in my prayers.

Sad & Confused

I agree Ted!! Torey was a GREAT guy and I can guarantee if you knew him you would know he would have never tried to break into ANYONES house. To read this artcile as an outsider yes I can see where some people feel like the “shooter” was jusitifed. Here in Louisiana the “alleged burgalar” has to be inside your domicile before you can shoot.

I agree with how can they shooter start shooting not knowing or seeing you was at the door…

RENEE

HELLO….. SAID HE WAS GOING THROUGH THE BACK DOOR. THINK THAT IS COMING IN YOUR DOMICILE… BETTER YET, DONT THINK, I KNOW. WHY DIDN’T HE USE THE FRONT DOOR? LET ME GUESS THEY DIDN’T HAVE ONE
Sad & Confused

Well Renee if you are going to be so opinonated please be sure to make it to where people can remark to your comments. And to clearify for you “inside” means inside not the doorway not the foot of the door….so there is a difference.

I don’t know why he didnt use the front door…I wasnt there and neither were you!! We can ALL say what we would have done but to shoot without even asking you it might be is just plain dumb and really irresponsible. I myself own several guns and have the common sense no matter what time to check something out before I go shooting the joint up…especially at my house!!

All these people who knew Torey are saying is that story isnt adding up. Give them their due…

Tom

dear ted, I once met a guy who was the middle sibling
of three, he had a younger brother and an older sister,
\we knew them for years, tirelessly religious, generous,
intelligent, helped by many hatede by few, etc , etc,
one day we visited them on a monday, thursday the
three siblings were all dead , executed torture style by this
devout religious loving middle brother who then shot himself,
so, tell me once again how previous sweet kind human being
like behavior is a guarentee how some one will NEVER be a
danger to others and should be allowed to treat anyones home
any way he likes cause he EARNEd the right to because he
was so nice before ??? I have a pal I Know named david who
has enjoyed my niceness for almost 10 years, and I would
never be the kind of a hole who would decide this situation
should allow me to try and enter his home when he does not
want anyone in there. geeze, what a jerk I would be then

Ted

I dont disagree with you Tom that there are numerous examples of “nice” people that have gone off the deep end. And no, previous great behavior is not a license to have bad behavior. I think we all can agree we have a right to keep an intruder out of of our home. All I am saying is Torey was not the bad guy. Not saying anyone was. What I AM saying is maybe someone acted too fast in taking a life that was actually not a threat at all, although it may have appeared so at the time. The investigation should turn up something. The investigators usually do a fine job. Do I believe Torey intended to break in? NO,,,no chance…just my opinion. All a huge mistake and now someone is dead. OF COURSE we have a right to protect our home, just use our best judgement at the time. I dont think thats what happened this time. Bad judgement to be there….bad judgement to shoot poor Torey.

Looking in from the outside

I met Torey a few times myself and his personality was magnetic. He was always smiling and made you smile. I’ve heard and read so many different reports and accounts of what happened. The homeowner (co-worker) was having a bomb fire party, the co-workers boyfriend is extemely jealous, Torey went back cause he needed a ride, the visitor shot Torey from inside, but my question is… Why after the shooting, the police came, and Torey was found in the grass, did the co-worker not admit to knowing him? So many pieces of the puzzle don’t fit. An investigation should DEFINATELY continue. There is more to the story than is being told. Did the visitor shoot out of fear ? Did he shoot out of jealousy? Could that be why the shooter didnt’ ask who’s there first? Is the visitor known to be a violent person? To my understanding there is no front door, only a back door to enter through, so that explains why Torey was at the back door. The report also notes the homeowner heard someone talking to her dogs, why did they not turn on lights, yell who’s there, threaten to shoot, before actually shooting? Again so many unanswered questions. I agree with the Texas Cattle Law, but I also believe EVERYONE should take all precautions before taking a human life. These people had been together all night and were friends as well as co-workers so it’s not like they didn’t know Torey or recognize his voice, just saying.
Never forgotten

What happened to society today? “Innocent until proven guilty” shouldn’t just apply to court cases. Rather, It should apply to everything. Next time you see a news report about a “burglar” maybe you shouldn’t be so quick to judge until you see the EVIDENCE proving him guilty. There is no evidence proving him guilty. I demand an further investigation, and say shame on those of you who are so quick to judge. The media is the worst.

strat4jazz

I’ll tell you what Never Forgotten……. you are welcome to come over to my house, have dinner, drink and do what ever you want. But when it’s time to leave, (and you leave out the front door) if you appear at my back door at 2 am (and you don’t call me and let me know) you will be either shot or have the hell beat out of you, because when you left you said nothing about coming back and I am not going to take a chance that the person trying to get in the house was “attempting to get in out of the cold” & not harm me or my family.

april

Torey was a good man and the truth will come out!!!

Never forgotten

If there was some sort of “like” button on here, I would have pressed it. The truth will come out about EVERYTHING. He was an amazing guy. He wouldn’t hurt a fly. I honestly believe with my whole heart and soul that he was there to ask his coworker if he could get inside from the cold. Anybody who knows Torey knows he would never do anything to hurt anybody, or give anybody any trouble. I believe there should be further investigation.

Dobie

Wow…very confusing story! I couldn’t help but say I’m not sure what I would do. I surely would of locked the door! Also was there bite marks on the man? I am a female and if someone came through my locked door my guard dog Doberman would attack him while I got the gun! Although he maybe a nice guy however this sounds like alcohol and bad judgement was involved. I don’t know either party.
Tom

well , maybe it was a mistake, but, “if” the deceased was there earlier at a
“gathering” maybe getting drunk ??? maybe coming back in before
dawn still drunk ??? maybe thinking he was at the right house ???
who knows ? except the 3 people who were there. everyone else
is just speculating,,, unless there are some psychics here. and I lost
count of how many nice guys I have read about in my lifetime who “lost
it” from anger, drinking, jealousy, etc… turning them into someone who needs to be shot, every serial killer, rapist and burglar all had their “first”
crime, maybe this one was his ? my brother shot at a drunk kicking at his
back door at 3 am one night in the late 80′s, shot at him thru the door,
lucky for the drunk my brother missed cause the drunk fell down just
before the bullets came thru the door, but what if that drunk ended up
dead,, ??? still, totally and completely the drunks fault.
Me

Here’s a thought – how about knocking on the door and asking permission to come in?

If I’m in Texas, unless they are outside or recognize me in another way, I will knock first. If no answer, then I will call them. IF still no answer, I will leave.

And I will walk away alive.

Tom

well, of course that is what “Wonderful, Sweet, Nice Awesome”
people do, and nearly anyone would agree with that too, and also
most people are agreeing that what this guy is reported to have
done was NOT those things… it seems that the contention here
is the the guy “WAS” those things ~generaqlly~ just not on THAT
day. so when a generally sweet guy, acts like a “Kicking-the-rear-
door-in” type, why is it shocking that he got the “Kicking-the-rear-
door-in-kind-of-guy” Welcome ??? butt-holery behavior is not
restricted to butt holes … apparently anyone can choose to behave
either way… but many in USA are not fond of Owning their behavior
choices.

Never forgotten

MHMM… So you know for a fact that he was kicking down the door? Or are you just going by the story? Will you please show me something proving him guilty of trying to kick down the door? I would be more than interested. Or don’t you know what you’re talking about?

Jeanette – Praying for the Orgerons

There is OBVIOUSLY some very important information that needs to be investigated by the police. I grew up with Torey and in no way believe he was there with the intention of harming or robbing anyone. It speaks volumes that he was there visiting with the same people who took his life. Lets also mention he has no criminal history. I am so sorry to hear he has been taken so soon. I hope his children remember him for the person he was and that their memories are not tainted by this awful news report that refers to him as a criminal.

Tom

would you agree that if he was behaving as reported that
he was NOT acting in his usual way ??? I cant even
begin to imagine myself, trying to enter a residence that
ANY person inside it did not want me to, and why didn’t
the owner open the door and say “Hi friend !!!” well, maybe
I am a much nicer guy that the deceased, because I would
NEVER EVER try to enter any residence a person inside
did not want me to. and that goes DOUBLE TRIPLE for
people I care anything about, inside said residence…
what a nice guy like me would do is NOT enter the residence
I was obviously not invited into by the owner or anyone else
there, go home, think and think, leave a few phone messeges
talk to someone who knew us both to see if I could determine
what was wrong well enough to try and fix it… but hey, I am a
rational, respectful-of-others type. unless I am very drunk.
which I rarely ever ever am. but !!!! while I might be drunk
one day ? doing something very odd for me, and I continue
to enter a residence I am not invited into, I deserve what I get.
stupid behavior deserves one kind of response, decent human
behavior deserves another kind oif response, and I would NEVER
believe that my nice human behavior yesterday gives me the
right to be a butt hole today.

Janette Guerrero

Ignorance is bliss!!!! Torey was an amazing person, who had everything he needed in life wonderful family and friends…. He was no Burglar!!!!!! Funny how many stories people have of what happen!!!! My thoughts and prayers go out to his family and his children… RIP in my friend!!!!
Big Sister

It’s just so sad that its all based on the life of of Torey but have some of the people that are looking down on the owner of this house and how she must feel of all the rumors. I know her she is my sister and she is a wonderful and loving person that would have given her last dollar or the clothes off her back to help someone in need. And to everyone who knows her and you know who you ppl are know that as well. Put yourselfs in their shoes! Question yourselfs what is your most prized possesions in your home? The answer to that is your “CHILDERN”. And to clear things up there was no get togerther at her house the stoy has been changed around so much its sickening and yes the truth will come out enough is enough with the lies. My prayers sincerely go out to Toreys family and especial to his childern.

Jennifer

Ok so she’s your sister, big deal!! You still have your sister and family!! How do you know there wasn’t a get together your only getting your sister side obviously cause the other side isn’t here to speak for himself!! My godmother lives in the rural country and has a porch light on both front and back doors how hard is it to turn it on and find out who it was? Yea so put your YOURSELF IN SOMEONE ELSE’S SHOES AND FIGURE OUT THE FACTS!!

BIG SISTER

You all are sick people and need some serious help. God Bless You and may God forgive you!!
RENEE

TO JENNIFER…. YOU NEED SOME SERIOUS SERIOUS THERAPY. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? AGAIN YOUR ATTACKING BIG SISTER BY SAYING BIG DEAL? JENNIFER YOUR INTELLIGENCE IS QUITE OBVIOUS. AND YOU OUGHT TO GO LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR, BC YOU WILL BE LOOKING AT ALL THE NAMES YOU HAVE CALLED PPL ON HERE. COME ON JENNIFER. PLEASE FIND SOME CHARACTER AND RESPECT AND MORALS AND VALUES. BECAUSE YOUR NAME BASHING AND PERSONAL ATTACKS REALLY DOESN’T MAKE YOU LOOK TOO GOOD, FURTHERMORE IT SURELY DOESN’T MAKE TOREY’S REMEMBRANCE LOOK GOOD. YOU TALK ABOUT PPL’S PARENTS ON HERE, WELL JENNIFER YOUR PARENTS SHOULD OF TAUGHT YOU TO ACT LIKE A WELL DESCENT LADY, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF, BECAUSE I’M SURE TOREY IS LOOKING DOWN AND NOT APPRECIATING YOUR SHALLOW, TRASHY, LOW CLASS NAME CALLING. LET ME GUESS, YOU LIVE IN CHALMETTE? IF SO THAT EXPLAINS IT ALL. BET YOU HAVE 5 KIDS FROM 5 DIFFERENT BABYDADDY’S AS WELL. YOU SPEAK LIKE YOU LIVE IN A TRAILER PARK. PLEASE ORDER SOME CLASS FROM AMAZON!!
Coreh

Renee, You should be charged and not Torey. You’re guilty of more than he is. You keep raping the shift key. What did he do? Is there any proof of him trying to break down the door? No? Ok then!

The truth is all!!

Big sister you are right how she must feel with all the rumors is horrible. Torey lost his life how do you thikn his family and loved ones feel? I’m sure the rumors will not kill your sister or cause her family any pain. Not once has it been said that he entered the home. The truth is all anybody really wants to know not what your sister thinks the truth is but what really is the truth. If Torey was trying to enter the home at the back door when he was shot how did he end up dead in the front which is at least 100 yards away. To get to the place where he was found is around a corner over a fence and more than 100yards. How do you shot an intruder at your back door and he end up that far from your house? It’s just not adding up, but what does add up is her jealous boyfriend chased him and didn’t care that it was somebody she knew from work. What she needs to do is be very careful with the man she has with her in a jealous rage he could do the same to her.

BIG SISTER

Need to get a police report to clear up everyones minds.

TheTruthWillSetYouFree

She would give her last dollar or the clothes off her back to help someone in need? Funny, in this case she gave him a bullet that ended his life.

Tom

“quote” …
She would give her last dollar or the clothes off her back to help someone in need? Funny, in this case she gave him a bullet that ended his life.

Response…
and you know what will happen one day, we will all hear that there is a
believeable reason he was there at 2am and not 2pm, and there will
be heard a reason that he could not figure out why the people inside
were no welcoming him in, and maybe there will be a reason despite
them not letting him in with a smile and a handshake, that he was trying
other doors when the front one wasn’t getting him what he wanted, and
we might also find out that what he wanted that was so important to him,
that 2 am was reasonable to him, and the lack of warm welcomes did
not disuade him, and those reasons are porobably not going to be
very good sounding reasons, can you think of any ???

Shooter1001

My money says drugs and alcohol had a lot to do with this. Almost always does.

Angie

Shooter1001, Do you know him to suggest drugs or alcohol…stick to what you know…which obviously is not a damn thing. It’s people like you that open your mouth when you shouldn’t. You did not know him so keep your slandering opinions to yourself

Robert

Slander is spoken. Libel is written. And one would have a really tough time making the case that Shooter1001′s opinion is actionable.

TheTruthWillSetYouFree

If drugs had anything to do with it, it was on the part of the homeowner/illegal alien boyfriend. Torey was not a user, he never used drugs and where he grew up he saw many people die far too young from drug usage and spoke against drugs for that very reason. I can believe that perhaps the homeowner/bf were high on crank or something of that nature and wern’t thinking clearly.

Tom

” quote ”
If drugs had anything to do with it, it was on the part of the homeowner/illegal alien boyfriend. Torey was not a user, he never used drugs and where he grew up he saw many people die far too young from drug usage and spoke against drugs for that very reason. I can believe that perhaps the homeowner/bf were high on crank or something of that nature and wern’t thinking clearly.

response…
so you are saying to me that sober and intelligent Torey, who failed
to communicate thru the front door who he was,, or refused to, was then
trying to get into a house where stoned people were ? is that what you
are implying ??? because if it is, you are once again, saying that Torey
was still doing something mostsmart people would not do. I leave stoned,
and angry people alone to cool off or sober up… I always have enough
time for that , I also have enough time toi see someone at a reasonable
and RESPECTFUL AND CONSIDERATE hour…

and sorry if it is received by you as some kind of insult but, I have many
fiends who I call smart, considerate and respectful, a list I remove them
from the very first time they are wandering around a house at 2am where
the people inside are clearly not welcoming them into.

Jennifer

@strat4jazz have you not read ALL the comments I said I did not know the family!!! I’m just stating my opinion if you don’t like it deal with it!! How does MHMR come into place maybe, you need help cause you make no sense at all!!

strat4jazz

Try going back to school Jennifer, most all issues with recognizing lucid comments are traced back to the lack of education. Again, I’m sorry for your loss, but in this state, we do not leave a residence and then attempt to get back in throught the back door UNANNOUNCED.

Jennifer

Honey I graduated!! Maybe you should REREAD all the comments!! With your lack of knowledge I’m not family nor a friend but a concerned citizen that does not agree with one human being killing another human being!! Stating my opinions is all I am doing and like I said if you don’t like it deal with it!! So in actuality who is the one that needs help? YOU have a nice day
strat4jazz

Jennifer, please don’t misconstrue the intent or the comments, neither one of us was there, so this is all conjecture. The important thing to remember is in this day & age, it is not wise to try and ingress a residence that doesn’t belong to you at 2am. Reagrding your comments about education, and the posts pertaining to this story, I only comment on the report of the story as it stands, nothing more, nothing less. Your education level is none of my concern, if you have enough education in your mind, then carry on, but graduating high school is not exactly what I meant. When you get past the GMAT or GRE tests let me know. We maybe able to have an intelligent conversation then. I don’t need any help, but thanks for your direction. Have a nice day yourself
RENEE

THANK YOU STRAT4JAZZ!!! LACK OF EDUCATION, LACK OF CLASS, AND LACK OF CHARACTER. SORRY TO SAY JENNIFER, BUT YOU SPEAK LIKE YOU LIVE IN A TRAILER PARK….. BTW IF A CIVIL SUIT WAS FILED, JENNIFER YOU WOULDN’T HELP TOREY’S FAMILY BY YOUR IGNORANT COMMENTS AND BY YOUR LACK OF CLASS….. MAYBE YOU NEED TO GO TAKE A CLASS ON BEING A WELL ROUNDED ADULT WITH CHARACTER AND CLASS…

Susie Kasper

If someone is trying to get into my house at 2am and doesn’t ID themselves I am not going to think twice before shooting either. Thinking twice will get you killed with your own gun.