Parents Use Hidden Camera To Capture Abuse Of Autistic Son

ALLEN (CBSDFW.COM) – An Allen couple suspected a caretaker was abusing their autistic son. But they had trouble convincing operators of the group home where he was living, as well as state authorities. So they took matters into their own hands, which led to a shocking discovery and criminal charges.

Karen and Michael Hartley secretly placed a hidden camera inside their son Taylor’s room at residential nursing home and documented an alleged beating of the 22-year-old.

“You promise this child when they’re born that you’re going to love them forever and you’re going to protect them,” Karen Hartley said of her love for her son.

Taylor’s autism and physical size, as he grew older, made it difficult for him to stay with his parents.

So Karen and Michael moved Taylor into several homes in east Allen, then operated by Frank Nerkowski.

Within days of living at a home, located in the 800 block of Meadowcreek, the family received a phone call.

“I get a call from our dentist and he says, ‘Karen you’re not going to believe this but Taylor has a compound fracture of his jaw’,” recalled Karen.

Caretaker Michael Fuller and another worker blamed the injury on a fall.

“At first we tried to give them the benefit of the doubt,” Michael said of the situation.

For months the family documented bruises on Taylor’s ears and legs, as well as burns on his arm.

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After state investigators failed to prove they were the result of abuse, the Hartley’s secretly installed a hidden camera in Taylor’s room in May 2011. Two weeks later, the family saw the video of Taylor cowering on his bed just about every time a caretaker entered the room.

Authorities say Fuller is the person seen on recordings beating Taylor with his fists and with a toy gun Taylor’s mom and dad gave him as a birthday present.

“I’m sitting here watching daytime television and my son is being beat and treated horribly,” said Taylor’s mother, “I feel so guilty we didn’t do the camera earlier.”

Frank Nerkowski manages several residential nursing homes,  owned by his ex-wife, in Allen. He says Fuller no longer works for him and believes Taylor’s behavioral problems contributed to what happened.

“Whatever he did on film was not good,” Nerkowski said about Fuller, “He’s [Taylor] a good kid he’s playful but there’s no discipline whatsoever.”

Fuller appeared in Collin County court last week to face a felony assault charge. His case goes to trial May 14.

Taylor’s parent’s say their son is not only recovering from broken bones, he’s also struggling with a broken spirit.

“He’s just real sad. He’s lost some of the zest for the things he used to enjoy,” Karen said.

CBS 11 News attempted to but was unable to contact Fuller for comment on the allegations.

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  • 2sister

    There is no excuse for this kind of behavior. I can’t believe the owner even gave a sort of approval of what happened.

    • Mimi

      The owner should absolutely be held accountable! It is reprehensible that he places blame on Taylor and he comes off as an uneducated moron. How can Texas allow such a clown to be responsible for the lives of our most vulnerable?

    • Karma

      I agree, I think that the owner needs to take responsability for his mistakes as well. He clearly doesnt do check ups on his staff as stated that Fuller had a warrent out for drugs. Awesome job being an owner of a business! He also needs to be brought up to charges for neglegance for not properly conducting investigations when issues were brought to his attention.

    • Voo

      If you have your child in one of these homes. Get them out now! Put them out of business! I don’t trust anyone that would have married that guy! I don’t trust the people monitoring the homes either. They need to be fired!!!

    • raw shark

      no worries y’all, I WILL FIND THIS MAN AND BEAT HIM TO DEATH

      not far from Allen here. not far at all

      • Lisa Day

        I know how you feel Raw S. This world is so full mankind who is followers of the Devil. Their time on earth is running very short. As Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
        I had to live by this and tell myself each time someone hurt my Son, Mom, My Father & myself….Justice is right around the corner.
        This promise carries me through hurt, pain and suffering of not just myself but for all.
        REV 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

        We all have someone who hurt us or others and wanted to take them down..there is just too many followers of Satan at this time of the end. Just remember one thing. For each man who forms pain to another, has family that has nothing to do with that persons illness of mind. Death of this man will form another in tears and the circle will never end. Until the Judgement day.

      • Linda

        He’s not worth it.. Don’t get yourself into trouble. We need good people on the outside of jail. Let the law handle it.

  • Joy

    How sad! Fuller deserves jail time, not probation. He is a danger to society and needs to be locked up and beaten daily like he did to others.

    • Linda

      I just pray he has no children or pets. Hopefully that will be looked into as well. He is pure evil.

    • kimberly2589

      I feel the same way.

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  • Donna

    This monster needs to be taken in an alley and have the *&^ beat out of him!!!! How can this owner even suggest that it may be a little fault of this young man. His business needs to be shut down and hopefully, he will spend some years in jail!!!!

    • bds

      you better believe if that was my kid an ass kicking would be the least of fuller’s concerns…

  • badboy15

    wow…that’s horrible. that young man is defenseless and did not deserve to be treated that way…

    no probation please. this kid has broken bones and years of spiritual recovery ahead

    • kimberly2589

      I 100% agree. there is no excuse for what he did. Emotions take the longest to recover.

  • Susie Kasper

    I hope the state will now come in and take a good hard look at these group homes and the way they are run. With the owner of the homes make an excuse for the employee it makes we wonder what else is going on behind closed doors. He should have been more than out raged at the conduct of his employee.

    • karen hartley

      Thanks for your comment. I just heard from Lifepath in Allen, the group home supervisors for our HCS providers and they are saying that their procedures are appropriate, that it is not their responsibility to provide a safe environment for persons like Taylor in HCS group Homes. This is ridiculous that the state of Texas is not willing to enable their HCS service coordinators with the tools to protect and report owners like the nerkowski’s to the local police department for negligence and physical abuse.These monthly inspectors should be held reponsible for investigating crime in group homes and reporting it. Taylor’s MOM

      • Ms David

        Would love to talk to you can you call me at the church office-ms David :)

      • Wendy

        I have an 8 year old Autistic son. I can’t imagine how you felt after seeing the tape. I think it is the states responsibilty to make sure our children our in a safe environment. I can’t believe that they said that it isn’t their responsibilty. That just horrifies me. That is the craziest thing I have ever heard. Fuller does not deserve jail time he deserves death.

  • Evelyn Shaw

    All facilities should have cameras everywhere. Good providers would not object to being monitered. The owner should be accountable also.

    • Mimi

      I agree that there should be proper monitoring, however, installing a camera in each room would take away their privacy. These residents are adults and they deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. I can only imagine what a person capable of beating the vulnerable would do with recordings of them in the most private of moments! It would only be a matter of time before the tapes show up on the internet.

    • YRofTexas

      I fully agree with you Evelyn. While my hubby was hospitalized Mar – May 2010, I stayed with him overnight then went to work. Just that little bit I saw attitudes and smart-mouthed techs and nurses. But they hated me because I got in their faces and made sure that they listened to my handicapped husband and did what they were expected to do. I believe that a family member and/or camera must always be present for when a loved one is outside the home.

    • R. Stanley

      I agree all facilities should be required by law to have cameras for the safety of the residents who are nonverbal !

  • Adam

    My family lives in Allen. Hope I dont see this Fuller guy when im there. For his sake. I cant believe some people.

    • Sarah D

      I don’t live in Allen, but if I seen him I would be sure to make a racket and get someone to seriously hurt this man.

  • Sarah D

    Absolutely Horrendous behavior. If that was my son and this guy only gets probation, I would find a way to get to him and harm him the same or if not worse.
    This man deserve fail time, and the owner should be forced to close down, or be forced to do legal evaluations of the people he hires.

  • PKL

    OMG! How frightening. As a mother of an IDD/Austic child just now learning about my child’s life options, this absolutely horifies me! How can I ensure my child’s care and safety with sick, sadistic people like this out there holding care-giver positions???!!! OMG!

    • momof2cubs

      My son is Autistic and is going to be 5 in March. I am with you. I am afraid that if I leave my child with someone I don’t really know, this could happen. I guess all we can do is research places that we want to send them. Or work at these places so we can keep an eye on them. Its hard all around. :(

      • karen hartley

        Thanks for your comment. Embrace your son’s autism, enjoy every minute you can of his childhood, help him to enjoy his life with this affliction. Receive your strength to do this from God, for Jesus sai d, My grace is sufficient for you, for
        My strength is made perfect in weakness.” 2 Corinthians 12: 9-10 NKJV.
        Follow your heart on when you feel your son is safe, when you feel that he is not safe, check it out , don’t trust anyone that does not love your son, like you do. Karen Hartley Taylor’s MOM

      • momof2cubs

        Thank you Karen. :)

      • The Other Side

        I too have an autistic child that has improved greatly. i wanted to share my knowledge with another family and volunteered to work with one in Richardson. They were deceptive with me from the beginning and didn’t inform me that their “child” was a 200 lb. teen with a history of sudden violence. I was severely assaulted in their home, attacked from behind, thrown ten feet by the hair, pinned down and my head violently shaken. The home health care agency that paid me refused any responsibility and never checked to see if these people had insurance. They didn’t, or at least claimed they didn’t, and according to police had done the same thing to at least four other people. I took them to court and won the costs of my medical bills which they never paid. Their son was a doctor at Parkland who retaliated by violating my medical records. His fine was a whopping $500 while I am out over $2,000 and NO state agency gives a wit.

  • Ben

    This makes me physically ill. That man is twice the boy’s size! Takes a pretty good hit to beak someone’s jaw. No one deserves treatment like that anytime, any reason.

  • Tami

    astonishingly, bills to get cameras installed in group homes to ensure there’s video oversight have been shot down time and time again using “privacy” as the excuse. parents need to rise up to meet the neeeds of their children, and if they can’t , they need to insist on homes where there are cameras installed.

    • momof2cubs

      I agree, its not like they expect them in the bathrooms. But to keep an eye on what is happening with their child. The ones who don’t want it probably have something to hide.

      • 2sister

        I understand how you feel, but their really are some privacy issues that would have to be dealt with. Also, it doesn’t necessarily mean that people who don’t want them have have something to hide. I’m not saying that some of them aren’t trying to cover something up, but again, just that this isn’t necessarily the case
        Some people are probably just afraid that the pictures taken might be misused by some people ( i. e. perverts) and violate the privacy of the person with the disability. Note: I’m not saying that there should not be any cameras, but we have to consider the fact that cameras in a person’s room could violate the person’s privacy.

      • Voo

        I have a son with autism. I want a camera in every nook & cranny where he is. Jerks like this would just find a way to get my baby out of camera view! Every adult with autism that is difficult to handle is someone’s baby. Did he treat his children this way?! Does he have children? If so , CPS had better get involved quick! I’m disgusted.

    • Marty

      We are doing that in NJ Tami. We now have the “Registry Bill” which once a direct care staff is convicted of abusing a client in a group home, that he/she is never aloud to work in any other facility in NJ. It still needs improvement, the families I am working with are meeting again with legislatures to amend that bill to make it stronger. We also are working with a NJ State Senator, Senator Beck regarding a bill she is trying to get passed which I believe this will have no problem getting passed after the loss of a client who was starved to death, in which the state of nj never followed up with this particular “foster group home for the dd” I proposed to expand Tara’s Law to include Group Home, Developmental Centers, supervised apartments, and nursing homes, caring for the developmentally disabled. Most of the legislatures agree with us, especially Senator Beck. We are proposing which an Assemblywoman who chairs the health and human services committee to get a bill passed making it manditory to educate, and certify direct care staff and to make sure they are qualified to work with the autistic with challenging behaviors. So many staff take it too personal when the developmentally disabled strikes out at them. That could be avoided by re directing, and using relaxation techniques to avoid a melt down. My son who is autistic pdd 27 yrs old is working well now in a well run program. I suggest families work together form an alliance, get politically involved to better the system that “oversees” these facilities….
      Marty Mother and Advocate…

  • Charlena

    Probation my *^%^%^ put him in jail!

  • momof2cubs

    This guy is sick! Beating someone who can’t fight back? What a coward!! If this were my son, I would try and keep him at home, or move somewhere where there are better group homes. Pick a state that protects special needs people. I hope the laws are a lot better by the time my son is ready to move out. The ex owner says Quote “believes Taylor’s behavioral problems contributed to what happened”. OH MY GOD…are you serious? There is NO excuse to abuse someone. Special needs or not. Disgusting.

    • Laura

      as they said his size was a reason he was no longer at home. a lot of times the parent cannot offer the proper supervision (for various reasons like health, age, physical limitations and work). Ideally the group home would offer this. This type of situation with the caregivers being the abuser is a crisis nationwide. A lot of times the victim is not verbal enough to tell anyone or too afraid. There does need to be a camera in every facility, parents or guardians can sign a waiver. The footage can be viewed on a secure server (many daycare centers do this like the Children’s Courtyard) where the parent is given specific user id. But also any abuse against a Special needs person should be treated as a hate crime and the sentence given should be the maximum allowed under those laws.

  • Tyna

    I started to leave so many different comments. All I can do is cry. My son is 16, severely autistic and blind. We take care of him at home (my in laws and my husband and I) and he also goes to school. Someday, we are going to die. That is plain cold truth. And all i can do is cry about his future and the sick, sick people of the world who would never love him and take care of him the way we do. My heart goes out to Taylor. I do not want to judge his parents. I know first hand how hard it is when a kid Taylor’s size has a tantrum etc…I have a few holes in my walls to attest to that. Right now my husband had to go get him from school for unruly behavior. But for now, until I have no breath left in my body, he will NEVER go to a group home.

    • karen hartley

      Thanks for your comment. I will say a special prayer for your son and your family. We have been in the same situation as you are now, except we did not have family support, like your in-laws. ( Holes in the wall, the school calling) One thing that I have learned being the mother of an autistic child, never say never.. I sincerely hope that you will be able to take care of your son in your home, always. Taylor still wants to come home to live with mom & dad. Sincerely, Taylor’s MOM, Karen Hartley

      • midwesterner2

        I am so, so sorry for what happened to your son, Mr. and Mrs. Hartley. I know something of the dilemmas you face. I am also a mom of a young-adult son with autism. I pray that I am never in a situation such as yours.

        Your family will be in my thoughts and prayers.

      • Autism Mom

        Mrs. Hartley, I too do not family support and I am a single mom of an autistic child and a legally blind child with autism like symptoms. I hate that this has happened to Taylor. I am praying for you all. That someone will take him into their group home and give him what he needs love and support. And that you will be able to gain trust in caregivers who do care. :(

      • 2sister

        I’m sorry for what happened to your son. I have a loved one with a disability.

      • grebis

        Karen, you and your husband are to be commended on your restraint. This article would have a different headline had I been involved. May you find a graceful path in life. Peace be with you.

    • Jennifer

      My heart was just sick watching this video… how can anyone do something like this to another human being… especially a defenseless one. What a horrible situation and it does happen more often than we all like to think. It is definitely hard to watch especially when you have an autistic child like we do and you wonder how life is going to play out for them. I know I have wondered many times and worried about these same things you do. I would like to interject some positive points and put it out there that this is not the norm for people to be treated like this with disabilities. There are so many wonderful and caring people that work in the field of taking care of autistic adults along with other disabilities. My 18 yo son is autistic as well and I have been fortunate enough not to have to ever use daycare or anything and he had wonderful, wonderful people all throughout his education and therapies that were around him… except ONE that we found out was being pretty rough with him when he would have his outbursts/meltdowns. When that happens, it sure bruises your trust in humanity and can tend to overshadow all the good that is around. We can all hope that we can somehow set our kids up to be in the ideal situation in case we are not around to provide or watch over and I pray you really don’t ever have to send him to a group home, but I think it is a bit unrealistic to not see that as a possibility at some point. When you have a child with special needs, you really have to be very realistic. Best of luck to you and your family.

    • TH

      You sound like an awesome parent. I commend you for caring for your child at home and the sacrifices that you must make to give him a higher quality of life. I hope you can find someone who will care for him and love him as much as you do.

  • A Friend

    I know Taylor’s sister and met Taylor at her wedding… He is a great guy. I have heard what his sister and family have gone through… I pray that Collin County does the right thing and the caretakers gets the max of his sentence…

  • Autism Mom

    I would kill this guy!!! And yes he can take that as a promise! You don’t go messing with another person especially one with special needs. I am so sorry this happened to Taylor and his family. I have an autistic son and I am fearful of who I leave him. :( My prayers are with Taylor as he heals.

  • charisa

    I am so sorry this has happened to your family, i am in TEARS as i think about what this has done to your son..emotionally, physically, and spiritually. I cannot even begin to think of the pain your enduring emotionally as well. There are some SICK people in this world and i am saddend to see it has been taken out on a defensless person. Many prayers!

  • autism mummy

    this is so so sad to read! im just wondering how many other patients have to go through this ordeal everyday and there are no family/carers to bring it to light… son is autistic and to even think this sort of thing would ever happen breaks my heart…….why are some people so sick in the head that they would even ever think of harming someone so fragile in the firstplace… doesnt give you any more power, if thats what its all over…….this needs to stop today
    there should be weekly checks in these types of places and if there are any tiny clues that it is happening then everyone working there should be questioned…..better still cameras in every room possible inc bathrooms!!!!!

  • Karma

    Karma is going to get this guy back when he becomes the helpless coward that he is in jail! I hope they treat him just like he treated little Taylor. Praying for Taylor and his family! You dont mess with one of my kiddos!

    • Linda

      OH he will get his in jail. Other inmates do not take lightly-child abusers, etc…Let’s just hope they don’t put him in protective custody.

  • lynn

    We all have to be vigilant and watch out for our kids. Trust your gut instinct and do not be disuaded by others. I hope Taylor heals and that you all will find a truly loving home for Taylor.

    It is truly disgusting that the former owner tried to blame Fuller’s actions on Taylor. We are all responsible for our own actions. No one person can “make” us abuse, yell, curse, or whatever. Our actions are soley in our own power and society should start holding people accountable, without exscuse.

    It is truly sad that some people get their jollies out of terrifying and abusing the weak and innocent. My only hope is that they will receive just punishment now, and if not now, then on the other side.

    • midwesterner2

      You are absolutely right, Lynn!

      The manager shows that he has no clue by his statement “no discipline”…. I hope that all their clients are able to go elsewhere, because no one should be running a group home with that abysmal lack of insight into autism!

      • loveothersnomatterwhat

        What got me was the comment made by the owner that Taylor’s behaviour had led to the care takers actions of physically and no doubt verbally abusing Taylor. I am VERY PROUD of Taylor’s parents for putting in a secret surveillance camera. These actions are uncalled for and not needed. These care takers are supposed to be TRAINED Properly of how to Conduct themselves when working with anyone with Challenges. I agree with you as well Lynn with all above the statement you have made but I am quoting this last statement of yours “It is truly sad that some people get their jollies out of terrifying and abusing the weak and innocent. My only hope is that they will receive just punishment now, and if not now, then on the other side.” because I am sickened by BULLIES and ABUSERS. In my opinion the care takers punishment isn’t even a punishment, it’s a slap on the wrist and that’s all.

      • Voo

        Even worse, he claims Taylor’s behavior caused it! Knowing through working in institutions & group homes, the behavior can be awful. It feels like “a lack of discipline” until you learn through education that traditional discipline backfires with a child that has an inability to understand social skills. These people are poorly paid (again you get what you pay for), not education, poorly supervised (I was not supervised either) and the people with disabilities pay the price. It is time for the officials to pay as well. They were supposed to be monitoring these homes. They were not doing their jobs. People should be losing their jobs right now!

  • carol norwell

    Evil….its happened here in the UK….no plea deal, no favours…anyone who does this deserves prison…and hopefully gets to meet some people inside who have had relatives abused in this way before … show them the error of their ways…..

  • Mom

    Unfortunately, as thousands of these children are aging out of their parents houses, we are going to hear more and more about abuse. There needs to be laws and stiff punishments for these people who treat people with special needs like this. So many rules/laws about no “child left behind”, but what happens when they are out of school. What are the parents supposed to do? My son is autistic and only 11 years old. He is getting very large and I fear the day when he has to leave me. I can’t even bear to think about it.

    • karen hartley

      The thought of ever placing Taylor in a group home was always uxceptable to me. as taylor grew older I painfully realized there would come a day when we would have no choice. I did my best to prepare him by reading him Bible stories each night, praying with him, kissing him on the head, and telling him I loved him. As time went on the looming pain of eventual separation became more intense. I realized that Taylor needed to leave in order to mature to the best of his ability and become the best he could be. Taylor has grown into an honest mad with a gentle spirit and a child like faith in God that exceeds my comprehension. I am very proud on him and will continue to love and protect his as long as I live.
      Taylor’s Dad, Michael Hartley

      • Jennifer

        I just want to say my heart goes out to you guys. That video was so difficult to watch and can’t even imagine if it was my own child in his place. I really hope things work out for your family and that Taylor can learn to trust again somehow. Kudos to you guys for having the strength to do what you needed to do to protect Taylor. I pray God watches over him and protects him wherever he is being cared for.

      • Marcy

        Seeking Justice- I am Mike and Karen’s eldest daughter. I can get you in touch with them. Email me The main reason that we went to the press was to get the word out on the Nerkowski’s since the state is too inept to shut them down. We are hoping at the very least for people trying to place their child will find this story and keep their kids out of there(my parents were *not* warned).

      • SeekingJustice

        We too had a child badly injured while in a home run by Frank Nerkowski, his son Tony Nerkowski and wife Pam Nerkowski. I would very much like to speak with Karen and Michael. How can we get in contact with each other without sacrificing our privacy?

      • Maureen Goddard

        Karen and Family,
        Thank you for sharing your story, and I hope you can pass over the disparaging comments and take comfort in the resources that are out there to make change for others like Taylor.

      • Lisa Day

        Karen, first of all blessings to you & Taylor and family. Feel free to have all of our comments copied and I here sign my name that laws to be passed in every location of any child or elders housings cameras. Letting all know they are being watched 24/7. No cameras no licenses allowed. Devices that can be used from your own home like GPS trackers or as now days Skype. Those people make money on our children and loved ones. I know it’s only right to leave it in the hands of God but I also know I would have a mighty hard time not waiting and taking things into my own hands. My son is 13 with A.D.H.D. & has Asperger’s syndrome. I give you my heart and pray this evil monster to be placed in a cell with a bigger guy who knows what he did to your son and or others and may he be blessed with the same kinda love each night.

    • Morentin1326

      you don’t have to send them away… i’ve seen plenty of adults with autism that are still at home… i would rather medicate my son (who is 16 and my daughter who is 17, both with autism) then stick them in a home… I hope they never leave me… who will sing them their bedtime songs and give them hugs and kisses… centers and homes and no employee’s paycheck is big enough to make some one want to do those kinds of things… family is what is best for them, but not every situation is the same… i hope you never have to send your child away, too…

      • Marcy

        It’s hard to tell in the video, but Taylor outweighs my mother by about 50 lbs, and is stronger than she is. They had Taylor later in life(like a lot of autistic kids). Taylor is my younger brother. I was 15 when we were blessed with him. There was no medication that would keep him calm enough at home without causing seizures and further medical issues. We tried everything. My parent’s paid out of pocket for attendants at home, but it was very hard to find good people. The group home really was a last resort for our family, and none of us wanted to do it. There really was no way to care for him at home any longer. This was the only group home in Allen at the time of placement. They moved him out the very same day that they saw the video’s. He is now in another home in a neighboring city(with different owner’s obviously), and they seem to be taking very good care of him(so far- we have lost all ability to trust).

      • Morentin1326

        I am sure it was a very hard choice, and i pray that i am never faced with that. i hope your brother is in a place where he is treated with the care he deserves. i meant no judgement to you, as i know every situation is different. I was just commenting on that i feel home is best. I actually know a family who sent both their boys who have autism, away as soon as they reached 12, not because they were difficult or uncontrollable, but because the parents did not want a life of sacrifice for themselves and their other child. I just wanted to point out that parents have a choice and if it is a choice that is good for both the child and family to stay together than they should keep the child at home. Many people don’t know that.

  • Morentin1326

    figures they would try and put the blame on the autistic boy… i saw this and my heart fell… i don’t care how big my son get’s i will never put him in a home… what do they think happens there? no one! i mean no one loves your child like you do… the worse part is this happens all the time, and they (children and people with autism) are the perfect victims, they can’t tell you, or explain it, or they blame them or their behavior, or they make excuses or just straight out lie, after all who wants to admit they are abusing disabled people???… this is why i never leave my kids… no one deserves to be treated like this, i don’t care what his behavior is… i hope this guy gets worse in jail… some one will get him, they always do…and the people who run the home should be charged too,they had to know something was happening, and if they lie and say they didn’t then they should be closed down, after all if you don’t know what is happening in your center then you don’t need to run it… UGH… ******* people… I tell you…

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