NEW YORK (CBS SPORTS) – Expectations for Tuesday’s meeting involving a select group of owners and players were low, and there was even a sense that perhaps the players would be in over their heads during the talks and that it would be a waste of everyone’s time.

But as the two groups — six owners and 18 players — met for more than 10 hours there seemed to be growing optimism that maybe, just maybe, the sides were making some sort of real progress that could salvage the 2012-13 season.

Following Tuesday’s talks NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly and NHLPA special counsel Steve Fehr — who were both a part of the meetings — held a joint press conference and announced that talks will resume again on Wednesday in New York. It was the first time during these 80-plus days of madness that the two sides spoke together.

Fehr said that in some ways Tuesday’s meeting might have been the best day they’ve had yet, while Daly added that he appreciates the efforts of the players and that both sides want to get a deal done.

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