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When talking about creating Dak vs Romo rumors and other Cowboys controversy, “A lot of time I do this stuff to create the debate” said Jerry Jones on his weekly radio show.

So does he really believe it – or is Jerry just trolling us?

“I’m very much into putting interesting things, things I think are interesting and could be interesting to other people, and I might give it a little extra twist one way or the other – I do that naturally” Jones said.

Jones also told Shan & RJ that rookie Zeke Elliott’s jump in the Salvation Army red kettle after his early touchdown against the Bucs was not a violation of NFL rules. “I question the interpretation by the officials – and the league, of course, didn’t fine Zeke.”

WATCH: Elliott Leaps Into Red Kettle After Touchdown

“I would take issue that is was a ‘Zeke prop’ that violated the rules,” Jones said. “We keep that red kettle back there all the time to remind, through visibility, what the Salvation Army does.”

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